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2010-02-10T11:41:53Z

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East Kai

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	FamConnect=<li>[[North Kai]] (''Fellow Kai'')<li>[[South Kai]] (''Fellow Kai'')<li>[[West Kai]] (''Fellow Kai'')<li>[[Grand Kai]] (''Boss'')<li>[[Arqua]] (''Student'')<li>[[Chapuchai]] (''Student'')}}		FamConnect=<li>[[North Kai]] (''Fellow Kai'')<li>[[South Kai]] (''Fellow Kai'')<li>[[West Kai]] (''Fellow Kai'')<li>[[Grand Kai]] (''Boss'')<li>[[Arqua]] (''Student'')<li>[[Chapuchai]] (''Student'')}}
	The {{nihongo\|'''East Kai'''\|東の界王\|Higashi no Kaiô}} is a short dumpy woman who is very strict with her students, she does not accept failure. She loves to jet bike and takes on Goku in a race. Her fighters are known for their speed. [[Arqua]] is apparently her strongest fighter, but he was no match for Goku. After Goku defeated Arqua (who was her last fighter in the Otherworld Tournament), she punished him (and several of her other fighters, including Chapuchai) by making him run a thousand laps around the Grand Kai's palace. However, seeing Goku and Pikkon fighting, she is soon able to understand why her fighters lost.		The {{nihongo\|'''East Kai'''\|東の界王\|Higashi no Kaiô}} is a short dumpy woman who is very strict with her students, she does not accept failure. She loves to jet bike and takes on Goku in a race. Her fighters are known for their speed. [[Arqua]] is apparently her strongest fighter, but he was no match for Goku. After Goku defeated Arqua (who was her last fighter in the Otherworld Tournament), she punished him (and several of her other fighters, including Chapuchai) by making him run a thousand laps around the Grand Kai's palace. However, seeing Goku and Pikkon fighting, she is soon able to understand why her fighters lost.
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	==Trivia==		==Trivia==
	*East Kai is similar to [[Idasa and Ikose's Mother]], as she was angry at her fighters for losing the Otherworld Tournament, and has a vaguely similar appearance to her.		*East Kai is similar to [[Idasa and Ikose's Mother]], as she was angry at her fighters for losing the Otherworld Tournament, and has a vaguely similar appearance to her.

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2010-02-10T10:52:25Z

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	Ohh wait I just thought, in the android saga Dr. Gero said that there was no need for him to goto Namak as he already had enough power to defeat Goku and had calculated his power increase with the androids, so does this mean that he was not collecting information when mecha-frieza came to earth? [[User:SSJ4 Lewich\|SSJ4 Lewich]] 20:37, February 9, 2010 (UTC)		Ohh wait I just thought, in the android saga Dr. Gero said that there was no need for him to goto Namak as he already had enough power to defeat Goku and had calculated his power increase with the androids, so does this mean that he was not collecting information when mecha-frieza came to earth? [[User:SSJ4 Lewich\|SSJ4 Lewich]] 20:37, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
	:Who knows, he could have just been lying/boasting, or maybe he scooped some of Frieza out of somebody's wounds back on Earth with a nanobot or something. It's just one of those weird mysteries I guess, lol. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:53, February 10, 2010 (UTC)		:Who knows, he could have just been lying/boasting, or maybe he scooped some of Frieza out of somebody's wounds back on Earth with a nanobot or something. It's just one of those weird mysteries I guess, lol. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:53, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
		+	Haha must be, thanks anyway :D [[User:SSJ4 Lewich\|SSJ4 Lewich]] 10:52, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

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2010-02-10T09:46:33Z

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2010-02-10T09:30:02Z

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Dragon Ball Z Kai

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	* Among other things, [[Vegeta]]'s unique palette while on a random planet in the beginning of the series has been altered, however, Nappa's armor is still different from the armor he wears on Earth (although it is possible he has more than one suit of armor.) Piccolo's blood in the Raditz fight has also been recolored to the proper purple color. (In ''Z'', he was drawn with red blood in this fight which was inconsistent with the rest of the series.)		* Among other things, [[Vegeta]]'s unique palette while on a random planet in the beginning of the series has been altered, however, Nappa's armor is still different from the armor he wears on Earth (although it is possible he has more than one suit of armor.) Piccolo's blood in the Raditz fight has also been recolored to the proper purple color. (In ''Z'', he was drawn with red blood in this fight which was inconsistent with the rest of the series.)
	* In the ending credits [[Launch]] is shown along with the rest of the cast. This is interesting because all the scenes from ''[[Dragon Ball Z]]'' she was in were filler that have been cut out.		* In the ending credits [[Launch]] is shown along with the rest of the cast. This is interesting because all the scenes from ''[[Dragon Ball Z]]'' she was in were filler that have been cut out.
-	* Some (but not all) of the gory moments have been edited to a degree along with nudity. In Dragonball Z when Piccolo fires his special beam cannon attack at Raditz and Goku, he creates a hole through both of them and a heavy amount of blood is shown, while in Dragonball Kai, no blood is seen at all, save for the holes that Piccolo creates in the centers of their bodies. More recently, in the scene where Krillin blasts a hole through Vegeta, only blood stains are seen in Kai while in Z their is blood coming out of the hole. Similarly, when Vegeta is executed by Frieza, we don't actually see the beam penetrate his chest. Nudity is notably edited as well such as in the first episode of Kai, when ever Goku (as a baby) is shown, his genitals are covered up by making objects that he is siting on appear to be covering his genitals. In a similar manner in episode 4 of Kai, Gohan's genitals are edited as well by using his tail to cover him when he is shrinking from his Great Ape state to his normal self. All these edits are made quite possibly because Japan's television broadcasting laws have become stricter since Dragonball Z has first aired.	+	* Some (but not all) of the gory moments have been edited to a degree along with nudity. In Dragonball Z when Piccolo fires his special beam cannon attack at Raditz and Goku, he creates a hole through both of them and a heavy amount of blood is shown, while in Dragonball Kai, no blood is seen at all, save for the holes that Piccolo creates in the centers of their bodies. More recently, in the scene where Krillin blasts a hole through Vegeta, only blood stains are seen in Kai while in Z there is blood coming out of the hole. Similarly, when Vegeta is executed by Frieza, we don't actually see the beam penetrate his chest. Nudity is notably edited as well such as in the first episode of Kai, when ever Goku (as a baby) is shown, his genitals are covered up by making objects that he is siting on appear to be covering his genitals. In a similar manner in episode 4 of Kai, Gohan's genitals are edited as well by using his tail to cover him when he is shrinking from his Great Ape state to his normal self. All these edits are made quite possibly because Japan's television broadcasting laws have become stricter since Dragonball Z has first aired.
	[[Image:Snapshot20090728153804.jpg\|thumb\|right\|140px\|New Scene: Vegeta's Assault. Click to enlarge (1280 × 720).]]		[[Image:Snapshot20090728153804.jpg\|thumb\|right\|140px\|New Scene: Vegeta's Assault. Click to enlarge (1280 × 720).]]
	* Episode 16 is the first episode in the series that includes several instances of completely new animation spliced in with the original. More than likely this was done to bridge gaps left behind when filler material was removed, so as to keep the length and pace of the episode intact; however it is also possible that this was done to replace damaged frames. This is seen again in Episode 21 at time indexes 14:25 through 14:50 and again, numerous times, interlaced with the original animation, starting at 18:44 and lasting until 21:44 (the end of the episode). The style of the animation should be considered "neo-classic" for it is designed to blend in seamlessly with the existing animation.		* Episode 16 is the first episode in the series that includes several instances of completely new animation spliced in with the original. More than likely this was done to bridge gaps left behind when filler material was removed, so as to keep the length and pace of the episode intact; however it is also possible that this was done to replace damaged frames. This is seen again in Episode 21 at time indexes 14:25 through 14:50 and again, numerous times, interlaced with the original animation, starting at 18:44 and lasting until 21:44 (the end of the episode). The style of the animation should be considered "neo-classic" for it is designed to blend in seamlessly with the existing animation.

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2010-02-10T09:18:03Z

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Super Saiyan 3

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	:::::::::*2. When Gotenks, Goku (GT), and Vegeta (from Raging Blast) transform into Super Saiyan 3's, they do not have dark green pupils.		:::::::::*2. When Gotenks, Goku (GT), and Vegeta (from Raging Blast) transform into Super Saiyan 3's, they do not have dark green pupils.
	:::::::::*3. Broly's Super Saiyan 3 transformation retains some Legendary Super Saiyan traits such as the greenish tint in his hair. Though this is officially a Super Saiyan 3 form, some fans incorrectly refer to Broly's form by the name "Legendary Super Saiyan 3".		:::::::::*3. Broly's Super Saiyan 3 transformation retains some Legendary Super Saiyan traits such as the greenish tint in his hair. Though this is officially a Super Saiyan 3 form, some fans incorrectly refer to Broly's form by the name "Legendary Super Saiyan 3".
-		+	*The name's of the only Saiyan's in the anime to achieve SSJ3 both start with the letter's "GO"
		+	*SSJ3 is the only Super Saiyan state to not destroy their opponent (SSJ Future Trunks killed Mecha Frieza and King Cold, SSJ2 Gohan killed Cell and SSJ4 Goku killed Baby. They however dominate the battle
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2010-02-10T08:54:04Z

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2010-02-10T08:53:31Z

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2010-02-10T07:51:27Z

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Vegeta

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	[[File:Vegeta-gt.jpg\|thumb\|left\|Vegeta in Dragon Ball GT.]]		[[File:Vegeta-gt.jpg\|thumb\|left\|Vegeta in Dragon Ball GT.]]
-	In the time between Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, Vegeta had grown a mustache (which raises an interesting controversy since Vegeta stated a Saiyan's hair never changes when responding to a question asked by Goku about Vegeta's never-changing hairstyle, since King Vegeta also had facial hair), and he also got rid of his armor and now wears a jacket. He is at age 57. However, he shaves the mustache off, shortly after his daughter, Bulla, tells him how much she hates it. This is one of the few issues in GT who's status as a "plot hole" is disputed, due to the fact that there is no evidence to suggest that Vegeta's claim of a Saiyan's hair never growing applied to facial hair, but still, Vegeta never said it didn't (in fact, Nappa having a moustache implies that it doesn't necessarily apply). His hair has also become noticeably shorter, the reasons for which never being told. Rumors humorously suggest that Trunks accidentally cut part of Vegeta's hair off with his sword, but this is never proven. It was his suggestion that Trunks and Goten go with Goku on the search for the Black Star Dragon Balls (Pan ultimately snuck aboard, and Goten was left behind).	+	In the time between Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, Vegeta had grown a mustache (which raises an interesting controversy since Vegeta stated a Saiyan's hair never changes when responding to a question asked by Goku about Vegeta's never-changing hairstyle, since King Vegeta also had facial hair), and he also got rid of his armor and now wears a jacket. He is at age 64. However, he shaves the mustache off, shortly after his daughter, Bulla, tells him how much she hates it. This is one of the few issues in GT who's status as a "plot hole" is disputed, due to the fact that there is no evidence to suggest that Vegeta's claim of a Saiyan's hair never growing applied to facial hair, but still, Vegeta never said it didn't (in fact, Nappa having a moustache implies that it doesn't necessarily apply). His hair has also become noticeably shorter, the reasons for which never being told. Rumors humorously suggest that Trunks accidentally cut part of Vegeta's hair off with his sword, but this is never proven. It was his suggestion that Trunks and Goten go with Goku on the search for the Black Star Dragon Balls (Pan ultimately snuck aboard, and Goten was left behind).

	=== Baby, the evil parasite===		=== Baby, the evil parasite===

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	:Well, the only reason I say presumably is b/c of me not knowing whether Gohan really was a SS2 to begin with. I think presumably was the wrong word for me to use. I've been on forums and YouTube and still I don't know the answer. I mean, Adult Gohan has the SS2 hairstyle, yet he doesn't have the electric aura associated with the form. Do you know the answer by any chance? {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 06:23, February 10, 2010 (UTC)		:Well, the only reason I say presumably is b/c of me not knowing whether Gohan really was a SS2 to begin with. I think presumably was the wrong word for me to use. I've been on forums and YouTube and still I don't know the answer. I mean, Adult Gohan has the SS2 hairstyle, yet he doesn't have the electric aura associated with the form. Do you know the answer by any chance? {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 06:23, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	I personally think that Gohan is pretty clearly SS2 due to the aura, hair, etc. However, some people would disagree with me, so it's sort of a personal preference for what you think happened. Lol, sorry I don't have a better answer. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 06:35, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

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2010-02-10T06:23:02Z

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	On your user page, you say that Broly could ''presumably'' beat SS2 Adult Gohan. In the movie, Broly not only beat him, but would have killed him had Krillin had not intervened. So my question is, why do you say presumably? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:08, February 9, 2010 (UTC)		On your user page, you say that Broly could ''presumably'' beat SS2 Adult Gohan. In the movie, Broly not only beat him, but would have killed him had Krillin had not intervened. So my question is, why do you say presumably? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 01:08, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:Well, the only reason I say presumably is b/c of me not knowing whether Gohan really was a SS2 to begin with. I think presumably was the wrong word for me to use. I've been on forums and YouTube and still I don't know the answer. I mean, Adult Gohan has the SS2 hairstyle, yet he doesn't have the electric aura associated with the form. Do you know the answer by any chance? {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 06:23, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

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	:As for my opinion on the matter, I feel that Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Kid Buu are stronger than Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu. However, if I were to compare both to Super Buu+Gohan+Goten+Trunks+Piccolo or Super Buu+Gotenks+Piccolo, I could possibly change my mind. {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 00:41, February 9, 2010 (UTC)		:As for my opinion on the matter, I feel that Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Kid Buu are stronger than Ultimate Gohan and Super Buu. However, if I were to compare both to Super Buu+Gohan+Goten+Trunks+Piccolo or Super Buu+Gotenks+Piccolo, I could possibly change my mind. {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 00:41, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
	Really, you think he looked tired? I mean he gives some strange/funny faces in even the most dangerous situations. To me and this is my opinion he only looked confused until he realized that the fusion was why Buu reverted to Piccolo Buu, and then he gained a more confident face when he knew that Buu’s overconfidence had gotten the better of him. The sweat that formed on his face seemed to be signs of nervousness and him realizing that he stood no chance. I mean when Buu came in charging with his pink aura, Goku powered up and sweat was on his face (and after he fired the con. Kamehameha at Buu). I think that fatigue really had nothing to do with it. There are plently of instances in the DB series where people show sweat in signs of awkward moments or something like that.----Vegetaisthebest		Really, you think he looked tired? I mean he gives some strange/funny faces in even the most dangerous situations. To me and this is my opinion he only looked confused until he realized that the fusion was why Buu reverted to Piccolo Buu, and then he gained a more confident face when he knew that Buu’s overconfidence had gotten the better of him. The sweat that formed on his face seemed to be signs of nervousness and him realizing that he stood no chance. I mean when Buu came in charging with his pink aura, Goku powered up and sweat was on his face (and after he fired the con. Kamehameha at Buu). I think that fatigue really had nothing to do with it. There are plently of instances in the DB series where people show sweat in signs of awkward moments or something like that.----Vegetaisthebest
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		+	:You know, you could be right with the drops of sweat being caused because of self-doubt. I guess there it is a matter of preference. {{User:SaiyanZ/sig}} 06:18, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Syn Shenron

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-	:Here is a list of things which you need to prove for this trivia to be true. Please do not edit the article again until there is consensus here on the discussion page.	+	:Here is a list of things which you need to prove for this trivia to be true. Please do not edit the article again until there is consensus here on the discussion page.:* Vegito in his base form is stronger than him:* Ultimate Gohan power was a little bit stronger than Omega Shenron's
-	:* Vegito in his base form is stronger than him
-	:* Ultimate Gohan power was a little bit stronger than Omega Shenron's
	:These appear to be speculation, but if you think you can prove these statements true, then feel free. Also, the link you posted does not work. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 03:36, February 10, 2010 (UTC)		:These appear to be speculation, but if you think you can prove these statements true, then feel free. Also, the link you posted does not work. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 03:36, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	Hey here are my arguments to prove all what I said before:
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		+	Instead of proving why Vegito and Ultimate Gohan are stronger I will prove that Omega Shenron is weaker begining with this:
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		+	Baby in his adult form couldn't defeat Goten in his Super Saiyan form (obviously becuause he was weaker) so he possesed him. Taking into account this Baby is weaker than a Super Saiyan.
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		+	Vegeta was only able to become a Super Saiyan 2 so, if Baby is weaker than a SSJ and Vegeta is a SSJ2 when Baby posses him Baby-Vegeta strenght wouldn't be so large, isn't it? I think that this character of DBGT is weaker than Adult Goku in his Super Saiyan 3.. Is obvious.. The difference in powers between Baby-Vegeta and Vegeta SSJ2 shouldn't be so deep.
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		+	That idea that I wrote is reflected when Goku gets the Super Saiyan 4 form and doesn't make any efford to fight with him.
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		+	When Baby-Vegeta becomes a Golden Great Ape his powers increase because if a saiyan become a GGA his powers are multiplied by ten.
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		+	Goku in SSJ4 is weaker than Baby-Vegeta Golden Great Ape because without getting the SSJ4 he was weaker than Baby-Vegeta, transformed he was stronger, but when Baby-Vegeta transforms he is a little bit weaker.
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		+	Then Goku kills Baby because he is given energy by his friends.
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		+	Things to take into account:
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		+	Vegeta-Baby is weaker than a Adult Super Saiyan 3.
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		+	Small Super Saiyan 3 Goku is weaker than Vegeta-Baby.
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		+	The power of Vegeta-Baby is not so far than Vegeta's.
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		+	Goku gets his SSJ4 transformation but when Vegeta-Baby multiplies his power by ten is supperior which means that if Baby Vegeta wasn't more powerfull than a Adult Super Saiyan 3 but if his power is increased by 10 he can defeat a SSJ4, that transformation isn't so far to the Adult Super Saiyan 3, isn't it?
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		+	Conclusion:
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		+	Super Saiyan 4 is stronger than a Super Saiyan 3 but not by a large quantity
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		+	SO
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		+	If Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks couldn't defeat Super Boo that means that Super Boo is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4, isn't him? Because a Super Saiyan 4 is not a lot more stronger than a Super Saiyan 3, and they were two and were fused!!!!
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		+	Ultimate Gohan could handle with Super Boo very easily without using his whole power, so, Ultimate Gohan is MUCH MORE powerfull than a SSJ4!!!!!
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		+	Taking into account that last point I will say this:
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		+	When Goku exceeds the powers of a SSJ4 he was able to kill Syn Shenron but the last one become Omega Shenron wich was stronger than Goku. In that moment the power of Goku should be near to Super Boo power because the last one was more powerfull than a SSJ4. So exceeding the powers of a SSJ4 Goku wasn't more powerfull than Ultimate Gohan.
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		+	Omega Shenron was stronger than that SSJ4 Goku but no enough to kill him. But Ultimate Gohan could easily beat Super Boo which powers where simmilar to a increased power SSJ4 Goku. So Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Omega Shenron.
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		+	Conclusion:
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		+	Super Saiyan 4 is weaker than Super Boo and Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks
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		+	Super Saiyan 4 is weaker than Ultimate Gohan
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		+	Super Saiyan 4 with increased powers is like Super Boo in powers.
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		+	Super Saiyan 4 with increased powers is still weaker than Gohan.Omega Shenron is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4 with increased powers but couldn't defeat it so easy.
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		+	Ultimate Gohan could defeat Super Boo very easy, so he could defeat a Super Saiyan 4 with increased powers very easy too
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		+	.Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Omega Shenron.
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		+	Another points:
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		+	when Super Boo absorves Gotenks and Piccolo he increases his powers very much and was able to kill Ultimate Gohan. So if Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Omega Shenron, Super Boo with Gotenks and Piccolo absorved is stronger too, isn't it?
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		+	When Super Boo absorves Ultimate Gohan obviously is stronger than Omega Shenron too.Then appears Vegito in his base form, and he could handle with Super Boo with Ultimate Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo absorved. So, he is much more stronger than Omega Shenron too!!!
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		+	And when Vegito gets his Super Saiyan form, is obvious that he is more powerfull too..
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		+	Conclusions:
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		+	Powerfull characters:
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		+	Super Saiyan 4 Goheta
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		+	Super Vegito (and base)
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		+	Super Boo with Ultimate Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo absorved
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		+	Super Boo with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo absorved
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		+	Ultimate Gohan
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		+	Omega Shenron
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		+	In conclusion, he is the second most powerfull villain and the fifth character.

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Vegeta

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Search for the Black Star Dragon Balls:

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-	In the time between Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, Vegeta had grown a mustache (which raises an interesting controversy since Vegeta stated a Saiyan's hair never changes when responding to a question asked by Goku about Vegeta's never-changing hairstyle, since King Vegeta also had facial hair), and he also got rid of his armor and now wears a jacket. He is at age 64. However, he shaves the mustache off, shortly after his daughter, Bulla, tells him how much she hates it. This is one of the few issues in GT who's status as a "plot hole" is disputed, due to the fact that there is no evidence to suggest that Vegeta's claim of a Saiyan's hair never growing applied to facial hair, but still, Vegeta never said it didn't (in fact, Nappa having a moustache implies that it doesn't necessarily apply). His hair has also become noticeably shorter, the reasons for which never being told. Rumors humorously suggest that Trunks accidentally cut part of Vegeta's hair off with his sword, but this is never proven. It was his suggestion that Trunks and Goten go with Goku on the search for the Black Star Dragon Balls (Pan ultimately snuck aboard, and Goten was left behind).	+	In the time between Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, Vegeta had grown a mustache (which raises an interesting controversy since Vegeta stated a Saiyan's hair never changes when responding to a question asked by Goku about Vegeta's never-changing hairstyle, since King Vegeta also had facial hair), and he also got rid of his armor and now wears a jacket. He is at age 57. However, he shaves the mustache off, shortly after his daughter, Bulla, tells him how much she hates it. This is one of the few issues in GT who's status as a "plot hole" is disputed, due to the fact that there is no evidence to suggest that Vegeta's claim of a Saiyan's hair never growing applied to facial hair, but still, Vegeta never said it didn't (in fact, Nappa having a moustache implies that it doesn't necessarily apply). His hair has also become noticeably shorter, the reasons for which never being told. Rumors humorously suggest that Trunks accidentally cut part of Vegeta's hair off with his sword, but this is never proven. It was his suggestion that Trunks and Goten go with Goku on the search for the Black Star Dragon Balls (Pan ultimately snuck aboard, and Goten was left behind).

	=== Baby, the evil parasite===		=== Baby, the evil parasite===

Supernova

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-	When Cooler's final form proved to be too much for Goku to handle, Goku's rage and desperation transformed him into his Super Saiyan form. Battered around and overpowered by Super Saiyan Goku, Cooler launched his Supernova intent on destroying Goku along with the [[Earth]] (he even mentions he can gather his energy much faster than Frieza). However, Goku manages to push it back with a [[Super Kamehameha]], sending Cooler and his Supernova into the [[Sun]] and it seems that he is destroyed. However in the movie [[Return of Cooler]], we find out that Cooler had survived the blast with only half of his head still remaining attached to the Big Gete Star, where he produces thousands and thousands of mechanical clones of himself to combat Goku and Vegeta. In Budokai Tenkaichi 3, super nova is Cooler's ultimate blast.	+	When Cooler's final form proved to be too much for Goku to handle, Goku's rage and desperation transformed him into his Super Saiyan form. Battered around and overpowered by Super Saiyan Goku, Cooler launched his Supernova intent on destroying Goku along with the [[Earth]] (he even mentions he can gather his energy much faster than Frieza). However, Goku manages to push it back with a [[Super Kamehameha]], sending Cooler and his Supernova into the [[Sun]] and it seems that he is destroyed. However in the movie [[Return of Cooler]], we find out that Cooler had survived the blast with only half of his head still remaining attached to the Big Gete Star, where he produces thousands of mechanical clones of himself to combat Goku and Vegeta.

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Dark Impact

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	The '''Dark Impact''' is a technique used by [[Vegeta]] in his [[Majin]] state. Before the opponent attacks him, Majin Vegeta shouts, "What's the matter, is this all you got?" as he teleports to avoid the opponent's attack. Then, he puts his hands on the opponent's stomach and blasts them away with a yellow [[energy wave]], inflicting a great amount of damage.		The '''Dark Impact''' is a technique used by [[Vegeta]] in his [[Majin]] state. Before the opponent attacks him, Majin Vegeta shouts, "What's the matter, is this all you got?" as he teleports to avoid the opponent's attack. Then, he puts his hands on the opponent's stomach and blasts them away with a yellow [[energy wave]], inflicting a great amount of damage.

-	Majin Vegeta used this attack while battling [[Goku]] in his [[Super Saiyan 2]] form. While Majin Vegeta defended against Goku's barrage of punches, he got kicked in the stomach by Goku. Before Goku could land another punch, Majin Vegeta quickly teleported behind Goku and attacked him with the Dark Impact energy wave, blasting Goku down into a cliff.	+	Majin Vegeta used this attack while battling [[Goku]] in his [[Super Saiyan 2]] form. After Majin Vegeta defended himself against Goku's barrage of punches, he got kicked in the stomach by Goku. Before Goku could land another punch, Majin Vegeta quickly teleported behind Goku and attacked him with the Dark Impact energy wave, blasting Goku down into a cliff.

	The attack was named in [[Dragon Ball: Raging Blast]], and is also one of Majin Vegeta's [[Super Attacks]].		The attack was named in [[Dragon Ball: Raging Blast]], and is also one of Majin Vegeta's [[Super Attacks]].
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Talk:List of Inconsistencies

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	:::*My point with Bulma ''is'' that she didn't know about SS5, but she says it anyway. Characters do things like this over and over throughout the series, and that supports my Dende theory- sometimes characters don't know things to be true, but say them anyway. Same with the Vegeta quotes. Btw, Vegeta most definitely thought he could defeat Frieza for a long time, not just because of pride, so you're mistaken. Since you seem to have missed the point again, I will reiterate very clearly, '''sometimes when characters say things that they think may be true, the characters are wrong.''' Such are the cases with Bulma (SS5), Vegeta (vs. Frieza), and Dende (Black Star Dragon Balls). All related, no tangents, just trying to help you understand why your theory cannot be correct.		:::*My point with Bulma ''is'' that she didn't know about SS5, but she says it anyway. Characters do things like this over and over throughout the series, and that supports my Dende theory- sometimes characters don't know things to be true, but say them anyway. Same with the Vegeta quotes. Btw, Vegeta most definitely thought he could defeat Frieza for a long time, not just because of pride, so you're mistaken. Since you seem to have missed the point again, I will reiterate very clearly, '''sometimes when characters say things that they think may be true, the characters are wrong.''' Such are the cases with Bulma (SS5), Vegeta (vs. Frieza), and Dende (Black Star Dragon Balls). All related, no tangents, just trying to help you understand why your theory cannot be correct.
	:::*In the case of Dende, it is infinitely more likely that he is mistaken (or just as validly that he misspoke, or that his words had a different meaning than your interpretation) than there being a contradiction in the plot. This is because, in-universe, it is possible for a character to be mistaken, misspeak, or say something ambiguous that can be taken the wrong way, while it is impossible for a contradiction to take place. Therefore the only time we record an event as a contradiction, is when there is literally, absolutely no chance that anything else is possible. Unless you believe that every theory other than yours is 100% impossible (please note that your opinion of them being "less likely" is insufficient), please cease your argument. If you do not understand why, then I don't know what else to tell you. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:41, February 10, 2010 (UTC)		:::*In the case of Dende, it is infinitely more likely that he is mistaken (or just as validly that he misspoke, or that his words had a different meaning than your interpretation) than there being a contradiction in the plot. This is because, in-universe, it is possible for a character to be mistaken, misspeak, or say something ambiguous that can be taken the wrong way, while it is impossible for a contradiction to take place. Therefore the only time we record an event as a contradiction, is when there is literally, absolutely no chance that anything else is possible. Unless you believe that every theory other than yours is 100% impossible (please note that your opinion of them being "less likely" is insufficient), please cease your argument. If you do not understand why, then I don't know what else to tell you. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:41, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
-	'''Comment''' - I'm sorry that my comments are long (I'm not doing it on purpose), I am just trying to convey my point clearly. I must add again that you ignored about half of what I said, but it seems you don't want to listen to my side of the argument fully. Again, and pay attention to this part, Saying Frieza cannot fly is not at all the same as my theory. You explain that the show contradicts the "Frieza cannot fly" theory by saying the show contradicts it bu showing him fly. You then say that my theory is contradicted by the show as well, but you fail to explain how...exactly my point. Just because you can reply to my comments by saying your theory is invalid, and then not back it up with anything, doesn't make you right. The show only implies that a year has gone by, so my theory is a possible inconsistency. If the show had said directly a year has gone by, then there would be some evidence to refute my theory. But it is not said, only implied, and in fact it is shown to look as if only a few days have gone by, which is the basis for my theory. Do you see how I have something the base my theory on, and you have all but stopped advocating your theory because you have got caught up in trying to make mine seem invalid, and you probably realized that your theory has no basis. As for the (100x) comment; that was obviously an exaggeration, and you know that so stop getting off topic. Next, I never said anything about the Manga, I am talking about the Anime which is obvious to anyone who reads this discussion. You even said that the Fusion Dance page supports what you said, which it doesn't, (I'm assuming you went back and looked at it) and now your saying that the Manga...??? I'm not impressed by how change topics to prove your right. Just so you get this, and your not confused, I'm talking about the ANIME, and the Fusion Dance Page (or even any page that references the Fusion Dance) which supports what I said, not the Mange. So my facts are as straight as an arrow, and I'm not making accusations. Again, for the 3RD TIME, could you please (I'm asking nicely) give me the name of the episode where Bulma makes the SSJ5 statement, because the whole discussion about her line was how it was said, if you still remember, not about characters saying things that they don't mean, etc. I would just like to say that Vegeta knows his own strength and has the ability to sense others', so he knows very well when going into a fight whether or not he can win, and if he persists it is merely because he has great pride and heart (if you look back at many battles in the Dragon Ball series, many characters beat people stronger than them because they try harder; are in it for the right reasons; or dig deep inside themselves for a strength they didn't know they had; etc.), not because he wants to get hurt (because that would be pointless). And you are contradicting yourself by saying things like "Vegeta most def. though he could defeat Frieza", now you want me to believe that your opinion on something is correct and all others are wrong. How do you know what Vegeta thought? You said yourself that the writers make mistakes, and characters are often wrong or misunderstood. And there are plenty of inconsistencies on the Article page that do not have absolute evidence for them to be irrefutable, so I don't know where you're getting this "all contradictions are impossible" thing from. I never said that my my opinion is always superior to anyone else's, but there are only two opinions in this discussion (yours and mine) and yours makes no sense, and has no basis (which I've already stated) and mine does have basis, therefore my theory is better in this case. You have done nothing to support you theory (you've pretty much given up on it), and now the only thing you're doing is trying to dispute my theory. So no your theory is not 100% impossible; it is just much, much less likely than mine (and I'm only talking about this discussion, just so you get that cleared up). If someone else were to reply on this page, and either suggest their new theory or try to support one of ours, I would completely take their comments into account...But since there are only two theories in this discussion, and I'm certain mine is more plausible than yours, I'm going to support my own. So I await your reply, and I hope that this time you will remember to mention the episode, because it will help clear up at least one point of our discussion. -- SonGogeta 04:22, February 10, 2010 (UTC)	+	::'''Comment''' - I'm sorry that my comments are long (I'm not doing it on purpose), I am just trying to convey my point clearly. I must add again that you ignored about half of what I said, but it seems you don't want to listen to my side of the argument fully. Again, and pay attention to this part, Saying Frieza cannot fly is not at all the same as my theory. You explain that the show contradicts the "Frieza cannot fly" theory by saying the show contradicts it bu showing him fly. You then say that my theory is contradicted by the show as well, but you fail to explain how...exactly my point. Just because you can reply to my comments by saying your theory is invalid, and then not back it up with anything, doesn't make you right. The show only implies that a year has gone by, so my theory is a possible inconsistency. If the show had said directly a year has gone by, then there would be some evidence to refute my theory. But it is not said, only implied, and in fact it is shown to look as if only a few days have gone by, which is the basis for my theory. Do you see how I have something the base my theory on, and you have all but stopped advocating your theory because you have got caught up in trying to make mine seem invalid, and you probably realized that your theory has no basis. As for the (100x) comment; that was obviously an exaggeration, and you know that so stop getting off topic. Next, I never said anything about the Manga, I am talking about the Anime which is obvious to anyone who reads this discussion. You even said that the Fusion Dance page supports what you said, which it doesn't, (I'm assuming you went back and looked at it) and now your saying that the Manga...??? I'm not impressed by how change topics to prove your right. Just so you get this, and your not confused, I'm talking about the ANIME, and the Fusion Dance Page (or even any page that references the Fusion Dance) which supports what I said, not the Mange. So my facts are as straight as an arrow, and I'm not making accusations. Again, for the 3RD TIME, could you please (I'm asking nicely) give me the name of the episode where Bulma makes the SSJ5 statement, because the whole discussion about her line was how it was said, if you still remember, not about characters saying things that they don't mean, etc. I would just like to say that Vegeta knows his own strength and has the ability to sense others', so he knows very well when going into a fight whether or not he can win, and if he persists it is merely because he has great pride and heart (if you look back at many battles in the Dragon Ball series, many characters beat people stronger than them because they try harder; are in it for the right reasons; or dig deep inside themselves for a strength they didn't know they had; etc.), not because he wants to get hurt (because that would be pointless). And you are contradicting yourself by saying things like "Vegeta most def. though he could defeat Frieza", now you want me to believe that your opinion on something is correct and all others are wrong. How do you know what Vegeta thought? You said yourself that the writers make mistakes, and characters are often wrong or misunderstood. And there are plenty of inconsistencies on the Article page that do not have absolute evidence for them to be irrefutable, so I don't know where you're getting this "all contradictions are impossible" thing from. I never said that my my opinion is always superior to anyone else's, but there are only two opinions in this discussion (yours and mine) and yours makes no sense, and has no basis (which I've already stated) and mine does have basis, therefore my theory is better in this case. You have done nothing to support you theory (you've pretty much given up on it), and now the only thing you're doing is trying to dispute my theory. So no your theory is not 100% impossible; it is just much, much less likely than mine (and I'm only talking about this discussion, just so you get that cleared up). If someone else were to reply on this page, and either suggest their new theory or try to support one of ours, I would completely take their comments into account...But since there are only two theories in this discussion, and I'm certain mine is more plausible than yours, I'm going to support my own. So I await your reply, and I hope that this time you will remember to mention the episode, because it will help clear up at least one point of our discussion. -- SonGogeta 04:22, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
		+	:::'''Reply''' - Unless I've missed something, your goal in this discussion is to convince me that your theory is true, resulting in an inconsistency in the series. I didn't think I had to explain that if something is listed is an inconsistency, then it constitutes a contradiction within the series. If you no longer believe that your theory would prove GT to be inconsistent, then you can let me know and we'll be done. Not that you'll listen, but your theory is a precise parallel to my Frieza example. Oh, and please stop saying that I'm not reading your excessively long comments, because I am. I have not stopped advocating my theories, they are all better than yours because they are not contradictory, as you claim(ed) yours is. On this site, we give preference to the manga for content, so you'll have to deal with that at some point. All contradictions are impossible because you can derive anything from a contradiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion). Therefore even ''seemingly'' less likely possibilities which do not result in a contradiction are, in reality, infinitely more probable. My theories all have plenty of basis, just read my talk page and this discussion over, I'm '''not''' going to retype everything just because you've forgotten. The Bulma thing is totally off-topic at this point, but if you must know, the quote is probably in either [[Shadow Dragons Unite]], [[Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta]], or [[Super Saiyan 4 Fusion]]. However I don't think you need to rewatch the episodes to know that there's no way Bulma could have known if there was SS5, SS6, or any other transformation (I'm not saying that these transformations exist, so don't start saying I'm not a fan or whatnot, it's very rude at this point). {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:58, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Frieza

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Trivia:

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	* Since his body was damaged from the [[Spirit Bomb]] and [[Super Saiyan]] [[Goku]]'s assault, his 100% full power form only allowed him to fight evenly with Super Saiyan Goku for a few minutes. It is unknown how he would have fared had he not suffered previous damage (though it is somewhat hinted he would have lasted much longer against Goku).		* Since his body was damaged from the [[Spirit Bomb]] and [[Super Saiyan]] [[Goku]]'s assault, his 100% full power form only allowed him to fight evenly with Super Saiyan Goku for a few minutes. It is unknown how he would have fared had he not suffered previous damage (though it is somewhat hinted he would have lasted much longer against Goku).
	* The fight between Goku and Frieza was the longest in ''Dragon Ball Z'' anime, at 19 episodes.		* The fight between Goku and Frieza was the longest in ''Dragon Ball Z'' anime, at 19 episodes.
-	* Frieza has his tail cut off three times. The first time is when he's in his second form, when Krillin chops it off with a Destructo Disk, though it seems to regenerate when he enters his fourth form. The second is when he is hit by Goku's Spirit Bomb, as part of it is unable to withstand the blast and thus comes off. The third is when he is cut in half by his own attack, the energy disks slice off his body, arm and tail.	+	* Frieza has his tail cut off three times. The first time is when he's in his second form, when Krillin chops it off with a Destructo Disk, though it seems to regenerate when he enters his final form. The second is when he is hit by Goku's Spirit Bomb, as part of it is unable to withstand the blast and thus comes off. The third is when he is cut in half by his own attack, the energy disks slice off his body, arm and tail.
	* Frieza is the only primary villain to survive a large Spirit Bomb attack. (Kid Buu and Omega Shenron were both eliminated by that same technique)		* Frieza is the only primary villain to survive a large Spirit Bomb attack. (Kid Buu and Omega Shenron were both eliminated by that same technique)
	* In addition, Frieza is chopped in half twice. The first is when he is chopped horizontally in two by his own energy disk. The second is when [[Trunks]] slices him vertically in half, seconds before chopping him to pieces and completely destroying him. (In ''[[Dragon Ball GT]]'', he is chopped in half a third time while fighting Goku and using Krillin's Destructo Disk technique against him, which Goku turns back on him.)		* In addition, Frieza is chopped in half twice. The first is when he is chopped horizontally in two by his own energy disk. The second is when [[Trunks]] slices him vertically in half, seconds before chopping him to pieces and completely destroying him. (In ''[[Dragon Ball GT]]'', he is chopped in half a third time while fighting Goku and using Krillin's Destructo Disk technique against him, which Goku turns back on him.)

Talk:List of Inconsistencies

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	:::'''Reply''' - Toriyama didn't write Dragon Ball GT, and plenty of characters say things that aren't true. How many times did Vegeta say that he was going to kill Frieza? And just look where that got him... The way the Black Star Dragon Balls work is worded ambiguously, don't know how else to put it. If you say it is clear, I'm afraid you are just mistaken. The fusion dance page supports me, not you, so I don't know what you could be referring to. I don't know what you mean by "they weren't even sure if he could go SSJ4 again" because the quote I was referring to took place before the first time Vegeta became a Super Saiyan 4. Also, despite the years Bulma has spent around Saiyans, no one but Elder Kai even knew of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation before Goku achieved it. You mention false lines being redundant, but again I have to bring up all the times anyone says "I will defeat you!" or something similar, truly believes it, and then gets killed. Often the characters simply don't know what they're talking about (and that's not to say that Toriyama doesn't, it's just dialogue). In any case, if you believe even one theory of consistency is possible, then you should drop your argument. This is because anyone can make up some theory that is possible but inconsistent (like that Frieza cannot fly- it is possible, but clearly not consistent with the events of the series), but we assume it is false if there is a valid counter-theory (Frieza can fly- also possible, and no inconsistency). Btw, would you mind trying to keep your comments a little more brief, say, 10 lines? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:35, February 9, 2010 (UTC)		:::'''Reply''' - Toriyama didn't write Dragon Ball GT, and plenty of characters say things that aren't true. How many times did Vegeta say that he was going to kill Frieza? And just look where that got him... The way the Black Star Dragon Balls work is worded ambiguously, don't know how else to put it. If you say it is clear, I'm afraid you are just mistaken. The fusion dance page supports me, not you, so I don't know what you could be referring to. I don't know what you mean by "they weren't even sure if he could go SSJ4 again" because the quote I was referring to took place before the first time Vegeta became a Super Saiyan 4. Also, despite the years Bulma has spent around Saiyans, no one but Elder Kai even knew of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation before Goku achieved it. You mention false lines being redundant, but again I have to bring up all the times anyone says "I will defeat you!" or something similar, truly believes it, and then gets killed. Often the characters simply don't know what they're talking about (and that's not to say that Toriyama doesn't, it's just dialogue). In any case, if you believe even one theory of consistency is possible, then you should drop your argument. This is because anyone can make up some theory that is possible but inconsistent (like that Frieza cannot fly- it is possible, but clearly not consistent with the events of the series), but we assume it is false if there is a valid counter-theory (Frieza can fly- also possible, and no inconsistency). Btw, would you mind trying to keep your comments a little more brief, say, 10 lines? {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 04:35, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
-	::'''Comment''' - I thought the point of having this discussion here is so that it didn't take up space somewhere else. Why do I have to sum up a comment to 10 lines? That leaves room for misunderstanding and not full clarification of what I'm saying. Anyways, I know Toryama didn't write GT and i never said that, you need to start reading my comments better because you continue to go on tangents on small things in my comments, which you aren't even reading correctly. What I said was that it's the same way that Toriyama decides what his characters say in DBZ, that the writers of GT decide what the characters in GT say. So only they know what the "true" meaning of what their characters are saying is. But it's not exactly rocket science to observe what is said and make an obvious inference based on what you saw. The way you say your examples, like Vegeta saying he was going to kill Frieza and Frieza not being able to fly, are completely not the same as what I am saying. What you are saying (For example: Frieza cannot fly) has evidence to absolutely refute it, such as I don't know...Frieza flying in numerous episodes! There is no episode where a character, or even the narrator (which cannot always be taken as canon), states the exact rules of the Black Star Dragon Balls in great detail, leaving no room for inconsistencies. Therefore my theory is completely plausible, and probably the most possible out of our two theories. Your theory also has nothing to make it invalid, because no one says anything to go against your theory, but makes less sense than my theory, and my theory actually has a basis; Your "exact day one year later" theory comes from nowhere, has no basis, and is completely shadowed by my theory since mine makes about 100x more sense. I think you need to take a better look at the fusion dance page, because no where on it does it say anything about the two beings fusing having to be '''exactly''' the same height, YOUR WORDS, and if you read the whole page it supports me fully. And if you are referring to the line where it says, "perfectly symmetrical", that isn't referring to height and appearance, it's referring to the dance itself (having to be done perfectly and symmetrical to the other person fusing). Even on the Fusion page under the Fusion Dance section, it says ''similar height'', not exact same height, so again you are proved wrong. And your comment about Elder Kai being the only one who knew about SSJ4 only proves my point further. If he is the only one that knew about SSJ4 how could Bulma know about a SSJ5, can you explain that to me. Also, could you tell me the episode, so I can make note of that line? I do not understand where your false line mentioning comment comes from. It seems that you do not read over my comments very thoroughly, and you also fail to acknowledge many of my points. If you just ignore have of my points, how is this discussion fair? And the whole characters saying things like, "I will defeat you", that is done mostly by overconfident, and arrogant villains in the series. Dialogue like that is not at all the same as say Goku explaining the super saiyan levels to Buu. You can't compare random lines, which are often filler, to lines that Dragon Ball wikia facts are based on. And as for Vegeta saying, "I will defeat you!", he only says that because he is proud and doesn't want to admit thats he weaker than anyway (because he is the prince of all saiyans). And in several instances in Dragon Ball Vegeta has shown the ability to know his limits in battle. On the episode when SSJ3 Goku fights Kid Buu, Vegeta admits that Goku, Kakarot, is better than him. The episode when he goes SSJ4, immediately after he ascends and Goku wants to take Omega Shenron on 2 vs. 1, Vegeta tells him that they both know that they could not beat him separately. So your point about characters proclaiming their victory, or superiority, in battle is invalid, and not to mention totally unrelated to our topic. Your starting to get way off topic in your replies about lines throughout the series, when lines do not all fall under the same categories. After reading over your reply I start to see that there is no real point to it, and you continuously say that what I am saying is invalid, and then you don't back it up. You keep going back to things that you said in earlier replies that I already explained were pointless, but you seem to find it too hard to understand what I am saying. Anyways could you maybe re-read this comment over, take into account everything I say, and then give me a solid reply back that has a point to it, thanks. {{unsigned\|SonGogeta}}	+	::'''Comment''' - I thought the point of having this discussion here is so that it didn't take up space somewhere else. Why do I have to sum up a comment to 10 lines? That leaves room for misunderstanding and not full clarification of what I'm saying. Anyways, I know Toryama didn't write GT and i never said that, you need to start reading my comments better because you continue to go on tangents on small things in my comments, which you aren't even reading correctly. What I said was that it's the same way that Toriyama decides what his characters say in DBZ, that the writers of GT decide what the characters in GT say. So only they know what the "true" meaning of what their characters are saying is. But it's not exactly rocket science to observe what is said and make an obvious inference based on what you saw. The way you say your examples, like Vegeta saying he was going to kill Frieza and Frieza not being able to fly, are completely not the same as what I am saying. What you are saying (For example: Frieza cannot fly) has evidence to absolutely refute it, such as I don't know...Frieza flying in numerous episodes! There is no episode where a character, or even the narrator (which cannot always be taken as canon), states the exact rules of the Black Star Dragon Balls in great detail, leaving no room for inconsistencies. Therefore my theory is completely plausible, and probably the most possible out of our two theories. Your theory also has nothing to make it invalid, because no one says anything to go against your theory, but makes less sense than my theory, and my theory actually has a basis; Your "exact day one year later" theory comes from nowhere, has no basis, and is completely shadowed by my theory since mine makes about 100x more sense. I think you need to take a better look at the fusion dance page, because no where on it does it say anything about the two beings fusing having to be '''exactly''' the same height, YOUR WORDS, and if you read the whole page it supports me fully. And if you are referring to the line where it says, "perfectly symmetrical", that isn't referring to height and appearance, it's referring to the dance itself (having to be done perfectly and symmetrical to the other person fusing). Even on the Fusion page under the Fusion Dance section, it says ''similar height'', not exact same height, so again you are proved wrong. And your comment about Elder Kai being the only one who knew about SSJ4 only proves my point further. If he is the only one that knew about SSJ4 how could Bulma know about a SSJ5, can you explain that to me. Also, could you tell me the episode, so I can make note of that line? I do not understand where your false line mentioning comment comes from. It seems that you do not read over my comments very thoroughly, and you also fail to acknowledge many of my points. If you just ignore have of my points, how is this discussion fair? And the whole characters saying things like, "I will defeat you", that is done mostly by overconfident, and arrogant villains in the series. Dialogue like that is not at all the same as say Goku explaining the super saiyan levels to Buu. You can't compare random lines, which are often filler, to lines that Dragon Ball wikia facts are based on. And as for Vegeta saying, "I will defeat you!", he only says that because he is proud and doesn't want to admit thats he weaker than anyway (because he is the prince of all saiyans). And in several instances in Dragon Ball Vegeta has shown the ability to know his limits in battle. On the episode when SSJ3 Goku fights Kid Buu, Vegeta admits that Goku, Kakarot, is better than him. The episode when he goes SSJ4, immediately after he ascends and Goku wants to take Omega Shenron on 2 vs. 1, Vegeta tells him that they both know that they could not beat him separately. So your point about characters proclaiming their victory, or superiority, in battle is invalid, and not to mention totally unrelated to our topic. Your starting to get way off topic in your replies about lines throughout the series, when lines do not all fall under the same categories. After reading over your reply I start to see that there is no real point to it, and you continuously say that what I am saying is invalid, and then you don't back it up. You keep going back to things that you said in earlier replies that I already explained were pointless, but you seem to find it too hard to understand what I am saying. Anyways could you maybe re-read this comment over, take into account everything I say, and then give me a solid reply back that has a point to it, thanks. {{unsigned\|SonGogeta}}
-	:::'''Reply''' - You can write as much as you want, I just requested that you shorten your comments because it's tedious for me to read something that long. Also, I read your comments just fine, it's just that not all of your points make sense, and I'm sorry if I am unable to fully communicate to you exactly why that is the case. I'm trying my best.	+	:::'''Reply''' - You can write as much as you want, I just requested that you shorten your comments because it's tedious for me to read something that long. Also, I read your comments just fine, it's just that not all of your points make sense, and I'm sorry if I am unable to fully communicate to you exactly why that is the case. I'm trying my best.:::*The Frieza thing again... You say that "Frieza cannot fly" isn't true because the show contradicts it by showing Frieza fly. Well, your Black Star Dragon Ball theory doesn't make sense because the show contradicts it. There is direct, solid, indisputable evidence against your theory, in that the only way it can be true is if the show is wrong. If there is even a chance of another explanation being true, then your theory is wrong, and that is the case.
-	:::* The Frieza thing again... You say that "Frieza cannot fly" isn't true because the show contradicts it by showing Frieza fly. Well, your Black Star Dragon Ball theory doesn't make sense because the show contradicts it. There is direct, solid, indisputable evidence against your theory, in that the only way it can be true is if the show is wrong. If there is even a chance of another explanation being true, then your theory is wrong, and that is the case.
	:::*Making up statistics (100x) is totally unproductive, unfounded, and doesn't impress anyone.		:::*Making up statistics (100x) is totally unproductive, unfounded, and doesn't impress anyone.
	:::*The manga says the fusing characters must be the same height, we just assume it's "approximate" because of the show. Perhaps you should get your facts straight before making accusations.		:::*The manga says the fusing characters must be the same height, we just assume it's "approximate" because of the show. Perhaps you should get your facts straight before making accusations.
	:::*My point with Bulma ''is'' that she didn't know about SS5, but she says it anyway. Characters do things like this over and over throughout the series, and that supports my Dende theory- sometimes characters don't know things to be true, but say them anyway. Same with the Vegeta quotes. Btw, Vegeta most definitely thought he could defeat Frieza for a long time, not just because of pride, so you're mistaken. Since you seem to have missed the point again, I will reiterate very clearly, '''sometimes when characters say things that they think may be true, the characters are wrong.''' Such are the cases with Bulma (SS5), Vegeta (vs. Frieza), and Dende (Black Star Dragon Balls). All related, no tangents, just trying to help you understand why your theory cannot be correct.		:::*My point with Bulma ''is'' that she didn't know about SS5, but she says it anyway. Characters do things like this over and over throughout the series, and that supports my Dende theory- sometimes characters don't know things to be true, but say them anyway. Same with the Vegeta quotes. Btw, Vegeta most definitely thought he could defeat Frieza for a long time, not just because of pride, so you're mistaken. Since you seem to have missed the point again, I will reiterate very clearly, '''sometimes when characters say things that they think may be true, the characters are wrong.''' Such are the cases with Bulma (SS5), Vegeta (vs. Frieza), and Dende (Black Star Dragon Balls). All related, no tangents, just trying to help you understand why your theory cannot be correct.
	:::*In the case of Dende, it is infinitely more likely that he is mistaken (or just as validly that he misspoke, or that his words had a different meaning than your interpretation) than there being a contradiction in the plot. This is because, in-universe, it is possible for a character to be mistaken, misspeak, or say something ambiguous that can be taken the wrong way, while it is impossible for a contradiction to take place. Therefore the only time we record an event as a contradiction, is when there is literally, absolutely no chance that anything else is possible. Unless you believe that every theory other than yours is 100% impossible (please note that your opinion of them being "less likely" is insufficient), please cease your argument. If you do not understand why, then I don't know what else to tell you. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:41, February 10, 2010 (UTC)		:::*In the case of Dende, it is infinitely more likely that he is mistaken (or just as validly that he misspoke, or that his words had a different meaning than your interpretation) than there being a contradiction in the plot. This is because, in-universe, it is possible for a character to be mistaken, misspeak, or say something ambiguous that can be taken the wrong way, while it is impossible for a contradiction to take place. Therefore the only time we record an event as a contradiction, is when there is literally, absolutely no chance that anything else is possible. Unless you believe that every theory other than yours is 100% impossible (please note that your opinion of them being "less likely" is insufficient), please cease your argument. If you do not understand why, then I don't know what else to tell you. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 00:41, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
		+	'''Comment''' - I'm sorry that my comments are long (I'm not doing it on purpose), I am just trying to convey my point clearly. I must add again that you ignored about half of what I said, but it seems you don't want to listen to my side of the argument fully. Again, and pay attention to this part, Saying Frieza cannot fly is not at all the same as my theory. You explain that the show contradicts the "Frieza cannot fly" theory by saying the show contradicts it bu showing him fly. You then say that my theory is contradicted by the show as well, but you fail to explain how...exactly my point. Just because you can reply to my comments by saying your theory is invalid, and then not back it up with anything, doesn't make you right. The show only implies that a year has gone by, so my theory is a possible inconsistency. If the show had said directly a year has gone by, then there would be some evidence to refute my theory. But it is not said, only implied, and in fact it is shown to look as if only a few days have gone by, which is the basis for my theory. Do you see how I have something the base my theory on, and you have all but stopped advocating your theory because you have got caught up in trying to make mine seem invalid, and you probably realized that your theory has no basis. As for the (100x) comment; that was obviously an exaggeration, and you know that so stop getting off topic. Next, I never said anything about the Manga, I am talking about the Anime which is obvious to anyone who reads this discussion. You even said that the Fusion Dance page supports what you said, which it doesn't, (I'm assuming you went back and looked at it) and now your saying that the Manga...??? I'm not impressed by how change topics to prove your right. Just so you get this, and your not confused, I'm talking about the ANIME, and the Fusion Dance Page (or even any page that references the Fusion Dance) which supports what I said, not the Mange. So my facts are as straight as an arrow, and I'm not making accusations. Again, for the 3RD TIME, could you please (I'm asking nicely) give me the name of the episode where Bulma makes the SSJ5 statement, because the whole discussion about her line was how it was said, if you still remember, not about characters saying things that they don't mean, etc. I would just like to say that Vegeta knows his own strength and has the ability to sense others', so he knows very well when going into a fight whether or not he can win, and if he persists it is merely because he has great pride and heart (if you look back at many battles in the Dragon Ball series, many characters beat people stronger than them because they try harder; are in it for the right reasons; or dig deep inside themselves for a strength they didn't know they had; etc.), not because he wants to get hurt (because that would be pointless). And you are contradicting yourself by saying things like "Vegeta most def. though he could defeat Frieza", now you want me to believe that your opinion on something is correct and all others are wrong. How do you know what Vegeta thought? You said yourself that the writers make mistakes, and characters are often wrong or misunderstood. And there are plenty of inconsistencies on the Article page that do not have absolute evidence for them to be irrefutable, so I don't know where you're getting this "all contradictions are impossible" thing from. I never said that my my opinion is always superior to anyone else's, but there are only two opinions in this discussion (yours and mine) and yours makes no sense, and has no basis (which I've already stated) and mine does have basis, therefore my theory is better in this case. You have done nothing to support you theory (you've pretty much given up on it), and now the only thing you're doing is trying to dispute my theory. So no your theory is not 100% impossible; it is just much, much less likely than mine (and I'm only talking about this discussion, just so you get that cleared up). If someone else were to reply on this page, and either suggest their new theory or try to support one of ours, I would completely take their comments into account...But since there are only two theories in this discussion, and I'm certain mine is more plausible than yours, I'm going to support my own. So I await your reply, and I hope that this time you will remember to mention the episode, because it will help clear up at least one point of our discussion. -- SonGogeta 04:22, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

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	==Saiyan arrival==		==Saiyan arrival==
-	The [[Tuffles]], a very peaceful, yet technologically advanced race shared their planet with a very primitive, barbaric race known as the [[Saiyans]]. In the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files, as well as from bits and pieces revealed by [[Baby]] and [[King Kai]], it is revealed that the Saiayns themselves actually originated on [[The Original Saiyan home world]], but were driven away by the [[Original Super Saiyan]]. By unknown means, the Saiyans either acquired or built many spaceships which brought them to the then Tuffle home world.	+	The [[Tuffles]], a very peaceful, yet technologically advanced race shared their planet with a very primitive, barbaric race known as the [[Saiyans]]. In the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files, as well as from bits and pieces revealed by [[Baby]] and [[King Kai]], it is revealed that the Saiyans themselves actually originated on [[The Original Saiyan home world]], but were driven away by the [[Original Super Saiyan]]. By unknown means, the Saiyans either acquired or built many spaceships which brought them to the then Tuffle home world.

	It is explained by King Kai, and later by Baby, that the Tuffles used their technological skills to construct and live in great cities. However, King Kai states that the Saiyans on the other hand, lived in small primitive villages in the outskirts and badlands of Plant. He also explains that although they shared the same planet, the two races rarely confronted each other and stayed relatively peaceful for many years. However, after awhile, the Saiyans began to grow tired of living in filthy primitive villages (as well as allegedly being treated like slaves, from what Vegeta mentioned), and so it was devised that they would start a great war for the planet against the Tuffles.		It is explained by King Kai, and later by Baby, that the Tuffles used their technological skills to construct and live in great cities. However, King Kai states that the Saiyans on the other hand, lived in small primitive villages in the outskirts and badlands of Plant. He also explains that although they shared the same planet, the two races rarely confronted each other and stayed relatively peaceful for many years. However, after awhile, the Saiyans began to grow tired of living in filthy primitive villages (as well as allegedly being treated like slaves, from what Vegeta mentioned), and so it was devised that they would start a great war for the planet against the Tuffles.

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-	}}, Carola Vázquez (Latin American Spanish), [[Wikipedia:Lucy Small\|Lucy Small]] (in GT) (Filipino & Visayan) Filipina Pamintuan (in DBZ & DBGT). Videl is one of the many useless women of Dragon Ball Z. She is the daughter and only child of [[Mr. Satan]]. Mr. Satan is very protective of her, especially in respect to boys. She grew up learning Martial Arts hoping to be as great as her father, when in fact, unknown to herself she was already better than him. She is a tough, tomboyish character, raised with fame all around her. In keeping with the name puns of Dragon Ball and DBZ, her name is an [[wikipedia:Anagram\|anagram]] of '[[wikipedia:Devil\|Devil]]'; since her father's original Japanese name is Mr. Satan (Hercule in edited dub and in Viz's censored manga, giving it the "A for all ages" label). She is the wife of [[Gohan]] and mother of [[Pan]]. After blackmailing [[Gohan]] to enter the tournament and teach her the [[Levitate]] technique (Using Ki energy to fly), she gradually starts to fall in love with him, for his kind and honest heart.	+	}}, Carola Vázquez (Latin American Spanish), [[Wikipedia:Lucy Small\|Lucy Small]] (in GT) (Filipino & Visayan) Filipina Pamintuan (in DBZ & DBGT). Videl is the daughter and only child of [[Mr. Satan]]. Mr. Satan is very protective of her, especially in respect to boys. She grew up learning Martial Arts hoping to be as great as her father, when in fact, unknown to herself she was already better than him. She is a tough, tomboyish character, raised with fame all around her. In keeping with the name puns of Dragon Ball and DBZ, her name is an [[wikipedia:Anagram\|anagram]] of '[[wikipedia:Devil\|Devil]]'; since her father's original Japanese name is Mr. Satan (Hercule in edited dub and in Viz's censored manga, giving it the "A for all ages" label). She is the wife of [[Gohan]] and mother of [[Pan]]. After blackmailing [[Gohan]] to enter the tournament and teach her the [[Levitate]] technique (Using Ki energy to fly), she gradually starts to fall in love with him, for his kind and honest heart.

	==History==		==History==

Dodoria

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	==Appearance and personality==		==Appearance and personality==
-	Dodoria has a rather brash and vulgar demeanor in sharp contrast to the more refined attitude seen in his comrade, Zarbon. He is an overweight, pink, round alien warrior who is known for his sexual encounters with pigs. He has protruding spikes on his arms and head. He also wears the common armor that most of Frieza's men have, including the shoulder pads and a green scouter.	+	Dodoria has a rather brash and vulgar demeanor in sharp contrast to the more refined attitude seen in his comrade, Zarbon. He is an overweight, pink, and round alien warrior. He has protruding spikes on his arms and head. He also wears the common armor that most of Frieza's men have, including the shoulder pads and a green scouter.

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Syn Shenron

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	==Trivia==		==Trivia==
-	*Omega Shenron is the third most powerful villain of the Dragon Ball franchise (only Super Boo with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved and Super Boo with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo absorved) are more powerfull than him, as well as the sixth most powerful character (next to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Vegito (Base and Super Saiyan), Super Boo (with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved) Super Boo (with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo absorved) and Ultimate Gohan).	+	*Omega Shenron is the most powerful villain of the Dragon Ball franchise, as well as the second most powerful character (next to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta).
	*Omega is the only character to show immunity to the [[Solar Flare]].		*Omega is the only character to show immunity to the [[Solar Flare]].
	*When he Nuova Shenron fights his Syn Shenron form in [[Budokai Tenkaichi 3]] he refers to him as Omega Shenron, however, when fighting his Omega Shenron form he doesn't mention his name and instead says "You're the one who'll be buried in the other world."		*When he Nuova Shenron fights his Syn Shenron form in [[Budokai Tenkaichi 3]] he refers to him as Omega Shenron, however, when fighting his Omega Shenron form he doesn't mention his name and instead says "You're the one who'll be buried in the other world."

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		+	I just rewatched all the episodes where Omega appears, and the only scenes where he is missing a Dragon Ball on his chest is after he loses the four star ball. If someone can confirm this then that piece of trivia can be taken down considering he actually was missing the ball.
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		+	[[User:North Kai\|North Kai]] 21:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:I'm pretty sure this is true, i'll go ahead and remove that, unless someone else can point out the faulty scene. {{User:Frieza'sScouter/sig}} 01:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
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	Omega Shenron is the fifth strongest character because:		Omega Shenron is the fifth strongest character because:

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-	I just rewatched all the episodes where Omega appears, and the only scenes where he is missing a Dragon Ball on his chest is after he loses the four star ball. If someone can confirm this then that piece of trivia can be taken down considering he actually was missing the ball.

-	[[User:North Kai\|North Kai]] 21:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)	+	:Here is a list of things which you need to prove for this trivia to be true. Please do not edit the article again until there is consensus here on the discussion page.
-		+	:* Vegito in his base form is stronger than him
-	:I'm pretty sure this is true, i'll go ahead and remove that, unless someone else can point out the faulty scene. {{User:Frieza'sScouter/sig}} 01:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)	+	:* Ultimate Gohan power was a little bit stronger than Omega Shenron's
		+	:These appear to be speculation, but if you think you can prove these statements true, then feel free. Also, the link you posted does not work. {{User:10X Kamehameha/sig}} 03:36, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

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Dragonball Evolution

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	On its opening weekend in the United States, the film grossed $4,756,488 ranking #8 at the box office.<ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=dragonball.htm \|title=Dragonball Evolution (2009) - Weekend Box Office Results \|publisher=Box Office Mojo \|accessdate=2009-04-13 }}</ref><ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-04-12/dragonball-evolution-opens-at-no.8-with-us$4.6-million \|title=Dragonball Evolution Opens at #8 with US$4.6 Million (Updated) \|publisher=Anime News Network \|date=2009-04-12 \|accessdate=2009-04-12 }}</ref> As of June 3, 2009, its worldwide gross had reached $57,530,083.<ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=dragonball.htm \|title=Dragonball Evolution \|publisher=Box Office Mojo \|accessdate=2009-04-13 }}</ref>		On its opening weekend in the United States, the film grossed $4,756,488 ranking #8 at the box office.<ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=dragonball.htm \|title=Dragonball Evolution (2009) - Weekend Box Office Results \|publisher=Box Office Mojo \|accessdate=2009-04-13 }}</ref><ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-04-12/dragonball-evolution-opens-at-no.8-with-us$4.6-million \|title=Dragonball Evolution Opens at #8 with US$4.6 Million (Updated) \|publisher=Anime News Network \|date=2009-04-12 \|accessdate=2009-04-12 }}</ref> As of June 3, 2009, its worldwide gross had reached $57,530,083.<ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=dragonball.htm \|title=Dragonball Evolution \|publisher=Box Office Mojo \|accessdate=2009-04-13 }}</ref>

-	Thus far, Dragon Ball: Evolution has been received with overall negative reviews from critics. One of the frequently discussed elements based on the movie's reception has been the dilemma of staying true to the manga and anime series. With major changes to the original story, the fans of the series and manga have had negative feelings. The film was praised for including the original characters such as Piccolo, Goku, Master Roshi and Chi-Chi, but at the same time bashed for changing them to a point where even the main protagonist is somewhat unrecognizable.	+	Thus far, Dragon Ball: Evolution has been received with overall negative reviews from critics and fans . One of the frequently discussed elements based on the movie's reception has been the dilemma of staying true to the manga and anime series. With major changes to the original story, the fans of the series and manga have had negative feelings. The film was praised for including the original characters such as Piccolo, Goku, Master Roshi and Chi-Chi, but at the same time bashed for changing them to a point where even the main protagonist is somewhat unrecognizable.

	Zac Bertschy of Anime News Network describes the film as such: "In the end, it all boils down to one thing: this movie appeals to nobody. It was made for no one. People who aren't familiar with the Dragon Ball story at all will be so flabbergasted by what's happening that they will likely tell everyone they know that it's one of the worst movies they've ever seen. Fans who do know what the general story is will be furious at just how unbelievably badly they screwed this entire thing up. Kids are used to better writing than this in their weekday afternoon cartoons (although you may run into a kid who has never actually seen a movie before, and they might dig it until you show them another movie). It's a clunky, tiresome, badly executed, horribly written pile of shame that deserves no quarter. In short, it's as bad as the fans said it would be." <ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/dragonball-evolution \|title=Review \|first=Zac \|last=Bertschy \|publisher=Anime News Network \|date=2009-03-16 \|accessdate=2009-05-22 }}</ref>		Zac Bertschy of Anime News Network describes the film as such: "In the end, it all boils down to one thing: this movie appeals to nobody. It was made for no one. People who aren't familiar with the Dragon Ball story at all will be so flabbergasted by what's happening that they will likely tell everyone they know that it's one of the worst movies they've ever seen. Fans who do know what the general story is will be furious at just how unbelievably badly they screwed this entire thing up. Kids are used to better writing than this in their weekday afternoon cartoons (although you may run into a kid who has never actually seen a movie before, and they might dig it until you show them another movie). It's a clunky, tiresome, badly executed, horribly written pile of shame that deserves no quarter. In short, it's as bad as the fans said it would be." <ref>{{cite web \|url=http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/dragonball-evolution \|title=Review \|first=Zac \|last=Bertschy \|publisher=Anime News Network \|date=2009-03-16 \|accessdate=2009-05-22 }}</ref>

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-	}}, Carola Vázquez (Latin American Spanish), [[Wikipedia:Lucy Small\|Lucy Small]] (in GT) (Filipino & Visayan) Filipina Pamintuan (in DBZ & DBGT). Videl is the daughter and only child of [[Mr. Satan]]. Mr. Satan is very protective of her, especially in respect to boys. She grew up learning Martial Arts hoping to be as great as her father, when in fact, unknown to herself she was already better than him. She is a tough, tomboyish character, raised with fame all around her. In keeping with the name puns of Dragon Ball and DBZ, her name is an [[wikipedia:Anagram\|anagram]] of '[[wikipedia:Devil\|Devil]]'; since her father's original Japanese name is Mr. Satan (Hercule in edited dub and in Viz's censored manga, giving it the "A for all ages" label). She is the wife of [[Gohan]] and mother of [[Pan]]. After blackmailing [[Gohan]] to enter the tournament and teach her the [[Levitate]] technique (Using Ki energy to fly), she gradually starts to fall in love with him, for his kind and honest heart.	+	}}, Carola Vázquez (Latin American Spanish), [[Wikipedia:Lucy Small\|Lucy Small]] (in GT) (Filipino & Visayan) Filipina Pamintuan (in DBZ & DBGT). Videl is one of the many useless women of Dragon Ball Z. She is the daughter and only child of [[Mr. Satan]]. Mr. Satan is very protective of her, especially in respect to boys. She grew up learning Martial Arts hoping to be as great as her father, when in fact, unknown to herself she was already better than him. She is a tough, tomboyish character, raised with fame all around her. In keeping with the name puns of Dragon Ball and DBZ, her name is an [[wikipedia:Anagram\|anagram]] of '[[wikipedia:Devil\|Devil]]'; since her father's original Japanese name is Mr. Satan (Hercule in edited dub and in Viz's censored manga, giving it the "A for all ages" label). She is the wife of [[Gohan]] and mother of [[Pan]]. After blackmailing [[Gohan]] to enter the tournament and teach her the [[Levitate]] technique (Using Ki energy to fly), she gradually starts to fall in love with him, for his kind and honest heart.

	==History==		==History==

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Dodoria

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	==Appearance and personality==		==Appearance and personality==
-	Dodoria has a rather brash and vulgar demeanor in sharp contrast to the more refined attitude seen in his comrade, Zarbon. He is an overweight, pink, and round alien warrior. He has protruding spikes on his arms and head. He also wears the common armor that most of Frieza's men have, including the shoulder pads and a green scouter.	+	Dodoria has a rather brash and vulgar demeanor in sharp contrast to the more refined attitude seen in his comrade, Zarbon. He is an overweight, pink, round alien warrior who is known for his sexual encounters with pigs. He has protruding spikes on his arms and head. He also wears the common armor that most of Frieza's men have, including the shoulder pads and a green scouter.

	==Storyline==		==Storyline==

Syn Shenron

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	==Trivia==		==Trivia==
-	*Omega Shenron is the second most powerful villain of the Dragon Ball franchise (only Super Boo (with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved) is more powerfull than him, as well as the fifth most powerful character (next to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Vegito (Base and Super Saiyan), Super Boo (with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved) and Ultimate Gohan).	+	*Omega Shenron is the third most powerful villain of the Dragon Ball franchise (only Super Boo with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved and Super Boo with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo absorved) are more powerfull than him, as well as the sixth most powerful character (next to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Vegito (Base and Super Saiyan), Super Boo (with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved) Super Boo (with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo absorved) and Ultimate Gohan).
	*Omega is the only character to show immunity to the [[Solar Flare]].		*Omega is the only character to show immunity to the [[Solar Flare]].
	*When he Nuova Shenron fights his Syn Shenron form in [[Budokai Tenkaichi 3]] he refers to him as Omega Shenron, however, when fighting his Omega Shenron form he doesn't mention his name and instead says "You're the one who'll be buried in the other world."		*When he Nuova Shenron fights his Syn Shenron form in [[Budokai Tenkaichi 3]] he refers to him as Omega Shenron, however, when fighting his Omega Shenron form he doesn't mention his name and instead says "You're the one who'll be buried in the other world."

Crusher Ball

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	[[File:Crasherball_2.jpg\|thumb\|left\|[[Jeice]] performing the attack in the manga.]]		[[File:Crasherball_2.jpg\|thumb\|left\|[[Jeice]] performing the attack in the manga.]]
-	The '''Crusher Ball''' is [[Jeice]] trademark and ultimate attack. In order to use the attack, Jeice concentrates an high amount of Ki in his left hand and creates a middle-sized red colored energy sphere by turning his palm upward, similar to the [[Spirit Bomb]]. Then Jeice slams the sphere with his open right hand hurling the energy ball towards the opponent. Jeice used this attack once while fighting [[Goku]] on Planet Namek. The technique is also known by the names '''Fireball''', '''Crasher Ball''' and '''Fire Crusher Ball'''.	+	The '''Crusher Ball''' (クラッシャーボール Kurasshā Bōru) is [[Jeice]] trademark and ultimate attack. In order to use the attack, Jeice concentrates an high amount of Ki in his left hand and creates a middle-sized red colored energy sphere by turning his palm upward, similar to the [[Spirit Bomb]]. Then Jeice slams the sphere with his open right hand hurling the energy ball towards the opponent. Jeice used this attack once while fighting [[Goku]] on Planet Namek. The technique is also known by the names '''Fireball''', '''Crasher Ball''' and '''Fire Crusher Ball'''.

	==Trivia==		==Trivia==

Syn Shenron

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	==Trivia==		==Trivia==
-	*Omega Shenron is the most powerful villain of the Dragon Ball franchise, as well as the fourth most powerful character (next to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Vegito (Base and Super Saiyan) and Ultimate Gohan).	+	*Omega Shenron is the second most powerful villain of the Dragon Ball franchise (only Super Boo (with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved) is more powerfull than him, as well as the fifth most powerful character (next to Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, Vegito (Base and Super Saiyan), Super Boo (with Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo absorved) and Ultimate Gohan).
	*Omega is the only character to show immunity to the [[Solar Flare]].		*Omega is the only character to show immunity to the [[Solar Flare]].
	*When he Nuova Shenron fights his Syn Shenron form in [[Budokai Tenkaichi 3]] he refers to him as Omega Shenron, however, when fighting his Omega Shenron form he doesn't mention his name and instead says "You're the one who'll be buried in the other world."		*When he Nuova Shenron fights his Syn Shenron form in [[Budokai Tenkaichi 3]] he refers to him as Omega Shenron, however, when fighting his Omega Shenron form he doesn't mention his name and instead says "You're the one who'll be buried in the other world."