It's a nice interpretation of the film. I like people who try to delve in to a simple lore and show that the story is actually a mixture of complexity and intelligence as well as symbolism. Broly from what I see from your interpretation like Kevin 11 from Ben 10. In which power is the reason why these mutants drive these characters insane. It also makes Goku less of a Gary Stu and an actual likeable character in which he is good at everything except common knowledge. Seriously, Goku is good at everything he just suffers the same fish out of water cliche as Wonder Woman. But for Goku, Toriyama and Toei stretch it out for decades even though it is not funny anymore.
that's not my interpretation, i just C/P the analysis and added the pictures. I thought it'd be nice to share it with the others, because this is what the movie tells you... as you can see once broly got free of his father's control he was pretty stable ... there's a big difference from M8 broly and M10 Broly who is only filled with hatred and is angrier than ever and people just don't understand that ... i understand people might find him dumb because he only screams kakarrot in the second movie but at least he has a good reason to hate goku there, he only becomes a brainless monster in M10 (but like i said he has a good reason to become angrier). The hate absolutely drove him crazy in the second coming and the way he acts is pretty understandable.
BrolyKale wrote:
that's not my interpretation, i just C/P the analysis and added the pictures. I thought it'd be nice to share it with the others, because this is what the movie tells you... as you can see once broly got free of his father's control he was pretty stable ... there's a big difference from M8 broly and M10 Broly who is only filled with hatred and is angrier than ever and people just don't understand that ... i understand people might find him dumb because he only screams kakarrot in the second movie but at least he has a good reason to hate goku there, he only becomes a brainless monster in M10 (but like i said he has a good reason to become angrier). The hate absolutely drove him crazy in the second coming and the way he acts is pretty understandable.
Yeah, agreed. In fact, if I remember correctly, didn't the Japanese version actually have Broly outright compliment his foes (and not in the grudging manner) for even having the guts to fight him despite it being hopeless at one point, including Goku? That doesn't sound like a guy who even hates Goku, especially regarding Movie 8.
BTW, speaking of Japanese comparisons, think you can post the screencaps with subtitles of where Paragus explains his motives for wanting revenge on Vegeta? Only reason I'm asking is because the dub implies that the horrific events of his birth also played a massive factor into Broly being driven mad, not to mention living in isolation for the past thirty years (Paragus essentially says "Now you will suffer the pain and fear we had to endure for so long, and then you will die."), and I want to see if the Japanese version had a similar implication. Not to mention Shin Budokai definitely implies he remembered Frieza's blowing up Vegeta and if anything is amused at the irony that he essentially owes Frieza his life.
BrolyKale wrote:
BTW, speaking of Japanese comparisons, think you can post the screencaps with subtitles of where Paragus explains his motives for wanting revenge on Vegeta? Only reason I'm asking is because the dub implies that the horrific events of his birth also played a massive factor into Broly being driven mad, not to mention living in isolation for the past thirty years (Paragus essentially says "Now you will suffer the pain and fear we had to endure for so long, and then you will die."), and I want to see if the Japanese version had a similar implication. Not to mention Shin Budokai definitely implies he remembered Frieza's blowing up Vegeta and if anything is amused at the irony that he essentially owes Frieza his life.
Yep. This is what he says to Goku, Gohan and Trunks "You could have gotten off just being killed like good boys, you didn't have to meet with such a painful fate! I'll give you credit for being every bit Saiyans." if he really hated goku he wouldn't even say that, he wouldn't even talk with anyone in the first place (just like in second movie).
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This makes me wonder why the idea that Broly hated Goku because of his crying even started. Paragus says that it's otherwise, so why do people still believe the former?
Broly's a mentally fractured and hinded being. His hatred of Goku because of his crying is him focusing on that as the catylist for his trauma he experienced as an infant from being stabbed, on top of the insomina he suffed from Goku's crying that happened for days on end.
Severe insomina can stunt the brain's development and growth especally at infancy. Which is important for babys at that stage to sleep, to help them grow. Broly was never able to nurture that.
On the other hand, his lssj form that was placed on him geneticlly as well by evolution hinded it even further due to it's overwelming power on his body that enhanced his negative emotions to unbearable levels for him at the cost of his mentally. The strain of the power as it grows while he stayed in that form mentally weaken him. His hatred of Goku's crying keeps him focused to stay in that form.
Eventally Broly would have lost all mentallity and become as mindless as kid buu, which is why he had to be put out of his misery.
Ultimately Broly's story is a somewhat tragic one, as he never was able to escape his predetermined purpose that was placed on him by creation and his terrible childhood. Like Goku could from his because he grew up under care and love while being taught how to hone not only his skills, but his spirit as well. Something Broly never got to experience and accept.
Broli was driven insane as a child by the fear of Frieza and his army finding him and his father. I think that info was stated in the Daizenshuu.. Kakarot's crying only helped him build his rage enough to where he went Super Saiyan as Frieza blew up Planet Vegeta.. another tidbit that comes from Daizenshuu. Broly became unstable and his powers just kept growing and growing, so with those two factors Paragus decided to control him before he detroyed every other universe.
Speaking of things tangeantly related to Broly, why can't GT or Future Trunks moon someone already?