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There ia a very simple explanation for everyone related to Hercule Satan having "Satan-related" names. He deceived the world into thinking he was the hero that saved them from Cell. In most beliefs, Satan is the great deceiver!!!

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So, for one thing, Videl is devil, but just rearranged with the letters. Videl is the daughter of Mr.SATAN. Censorers even tried to change the spelling to Beedel because of this. Also, from the Martial arts tournament saga to the kid buu saga, the cutscene features "Devil" and Gohan driving a car that says "Mr.Satan" with a fire paintjob and a 666 sign. Now, this could all just be some joke against christianity thats shared between Akira Toriyama and his friends, but isn't that taking a joke a bit far? I can see why they made Hell not look so bad, because if by Christian standards, we're all going to hell.


Thoughts?

There is a very simple explanation for everyone related to Hercule Satan having "Satan-related" names. He deceived the world into thinking he was the hero that saved them from Cell. In most beliefs, Satan is the great deceiver!!! It's another pun. Everything doing with Saiyans is vegitable-related, Frieza/Cooler's race are all Cold (like their dad), Majin Buu and his creator/handlers were all named for a Cinderella song (you know... Bibadi...Babadi,,, BUU!!! Come on already!).... All of Mr. Satan's relatives and vehicles are related to him as the deceiver of the world. That's all. I don't think Toriyama would blatantly cut/piss off all of the entire Christian fanbase.


Yup

As you know, DBZ has a tradition of themed names. The Saiyans are all named after vegetables: Vegeta, Nappa, Kakarot, Raditz, Bardock etc. The important characters who are average humans (Mr. Satan and his family) are all themed after Satan-related things. I think this is Toriyama's social commentary. Humans are greedy, corrupt, hateful, evil beings. We are devils. Can you disagree with him?

Mmhm.

I bet Videl's mother's name is a pun on the name "Lucifer" or something. Tokeupdude 19:38, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well in Japan I'm pretty sure Christianity isn't as big as it is here, so it's just a joke. Yeah, if someone did that here it would be to far, but as I said Christianity isn't as big in Japan.

More on that

Not to mention that mr satans role in dbz is an idol that is worshipped for being the strongest in the world but is really not and he is falsely idolized..sounds like an anti christ role to me.

well

i think you're looking into it too much. mr. satan may have been a poke at christianity, but with all the series of name puns, i doubt it was intentional. i'm sure the vegetables aren't offended that they have characters named after them.

I personally don't think so.

It's just one of Toriyama's many ways of putting a bit of his own sense of humor into his work, and one of them is name puns. Like said earlier, the Saiyans' names are punned after vegetables. In this case, the Hercule family is punned after Satan. I highly doubt it was anything to seriously offend the Christian religion. Just his way of having some fun and joking around.

Omigod woul you ppl shut up!

Mr.Satan is just a wrestler name!!! How do u not get this?! And btw, do you even know where the whole 666 thing came from? Because it's REALLY stupid.

It's on the side of Videl's car. Remember the old opening to the World Tournament saga? Gohan is driving a car on a beach with Videl in the back seat. - GoingSuper3

No, he's saying that the origin of the no. 666 in the real world is stupid.Gohan ssj2Gohan is Supreme, Supreme is Gohan. I...am Supreme Gohan!Gohan ssj2 12:58, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Its just the world. Don't complain about the world, because it won't change for you. GoingSuper3 15:23, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

OMG

will they stop witj these okay imean if i was an admin id ban the guy who made that first imean 3 in a row comon G..............D............!I Am THE Dangalang Man 05:22, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

My thoughts

Dragon Ball Z is not Satanic. I have many reasons why.

First, Mr. Satan is a Satanic name, but it is for a reason. He is the winner of the 24th Martial Arts Tournament, making everyone believe he is the strongest even though he's not. He is weak and can't do much, yet everyone thinks he's the strongest. This was a poke at people who do worship the devil and think he's the strongest being even though he is not. He has failed his fans numerous times, but he has come up with many excuses to keep having fans. Basically, Mr. Satan represents false worship, wrong worship, or proof that Satan is not who you should really worship.

Now let's take Videl. She represents repentance. When she was first introduced, she thought that Mr. Satan was the strongest (even though he isn't) and is rude and arrogant. She is rich and respected, yet she respects no one but her father at first. She was the one who figured out the true identity of the Great Saiyaman, and then blackmailed Gohan into teaching her how to use her ki. After this, she and Gohan begin to fall for each other. Gohan sees something in her that no one else does, and then Videl changes to repent for her sins. She marries Gohan and becomes a much nicer woman.

There is one character for each deadly sin in the show:

Gluttony is represented by Yajirobe. He would not tell the reporters about the Saiyans until he had his food, thus putting food before the fate of the planet. He turns out to be a fat, weak, near-useless human for his selfishness.

Wrath is represented by Dr. Gero. He hates Goku for defeating the Red Ribbon Army, and creates 19 Androids as well as turn himself into one. However, he angers 17 by turning him into an android, and the first chance 17 saw, he killed Gero.

Pride is represented by Cell. He obviously loves himself due to his "perfection." Upon reaching his Super Perfect Form, he begins to think that no one could outmatch him and even surpasses Goku. This pride leads to his demise when he feels pity for Gohan and lets him transform. Gohan kills him with the Father-Son Kamehameha, never to see the light of day again.

Sloth is represented by Babidi. He just sat around there and didn't fight, making him a real coward. He just controlled people and was the wicked mastermind behind everything. In the end, he was strangled to death by Buu.

Lust is, obviously, represented by Master Roshi. He is always trying to molest women or catch glimpses of them in underwear or not anything at all. He is always getting smacked, knocked out, or hit on the head, but due to his immortality, he never dies. He never learns from this, but he does always get hit.

Greed is represented by King Piccolo. He craves eternal youth, so he finds the Dragon Balls and wishes for it, then wipes out Shenron. However, this selfish and greedy wish got him killed by Goku's Penetrate! attack, and he was dead for 1. Not having wished for Immortality or something better instead and 2. Being a greedy, selfish jerk.

Finally, Envy is represented by Vegeta. He is always jealous of Goku for being stronger than him despite being a low-class warrior whose power level was merely 2 at birth. He is always trying to find was to surpass him, such as turning into a Majin and finding new classes of Super Saiyans (although that wasn't primarily used for outclassing Goku). This leads to his death a few times, but unlike everyone else, he stops his envy and becomes a nicer man (although he still is kind of jealous of Goku)

All these characters have bad things happen to them because of the sin they represent, although Yajirobe was the only one never to die.

Goku could be considered to be somewhat of a religious figure. He appeared on Earth, he turned into a pure-hearted soul, and did many things that a lot of pastors and church-goers could not do themselves. First, he has Krillin not kill Vegeta with the sword, even though he deserved it. He basically had mercy for Vegeta although he did not deserve any mercy. He also demonstrates this with Raditz, who tricks him into letting go of his tail, but he did this because he was a pure-hearted soul and had mercy for him (But Raditz didn't turn good... eh, who cares?). Even in early Dragon Ball, this was demonstrated with Yamcha, who started out as a desert bandit but changed his ways because Goku allowed him to. He also helps Gohan as he is about to kill Cell with the Father-Son Kamehameha even though he was dead. There were many other things that Goku did, and many religious people would be proud of him.

In short, DBZ is not Satanic, it is the exact opposite of Satanic. Well, in my eyes, at least.


GOD.......................Damn thats a long post TMTOYH

Wow a lot of thought and effort was put in your post. Vegito SSJ4The Legendary SSJ4 VegitoSSJ Future Gohan badass 14:56, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

To whoever wrote that post, wow. That was very long and very well thought out. You make some very excellent points there. Kudos to you. JordanTH 23:44, July 31, 2011 (UTC)


Interesting analysis, but you do know Toriyama make it up as he went along? I highly doubt he thought about that kind of thing in advance. interesting thoughts.

I don't get why ur trying to make dbz about religion!!!!!!!

It's not!!!!! Like, at all!!!!!

It's not satanic but if you want me to explain I can.TrunksBurningAttackFuture Trunks is the bestFutureTrunksPeaceEp193 20:14, November 4, 2011 (UTC) 01:15, November 7, 2011 (UTC)AyumuNarumiSpiralSpiral Ayumu Narumi by OgdenX 01:20, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

BardockGoku's thoughts

This is true, but in Dragon Ball Z there are puns on everything and almost every main and secondary charcaters.BardockGoku 13:08, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

This is why Dragon Ball is one of my favorite franchises. AT isn't afraid to poke at controversial topics and I respect that. GoingSuper3 15:27, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Moo165.29.43.254 19:28, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

i also find it suspicious but i dont believe that i mgoing to hell.....BUT by christian standards if someone inspired by books,comics etc starts to experiment in magic or stops believing in Jesus yes he WILL go to Hell...

@whoever posted last, fuck your religion. It is the dumbest shit to ever exist on this planet. Fuck religion in general, so stupid I can't understand how anyone with half a brain could believe that shit. "I may be just a pothole in the road to you big guy, but it's going to be one hell of a deep pothole." - Tien 18:00, December 2, 2011 (UTC)


^ Pretty stupid of you to get into an argument, about something you call "stupid." If you don't like Religion, simply step away from the topic. I'm sure there's plenty of Religious people here (myself included) that don't want to hear people being ignorant and cursing at so-and-so's Religion. Anyways I wanted to make a point on Hercules name (Mr. satan). satan (I don't capitilize his name for various reasons) in Greek literally means 'Deceiver' so in short, I think Akira Toriyama is showing the true colours of the devil, and telling people who don't believe or respect God, that he is not who he says he is. Or he's just having fun playing with our minds lol. Either way, Akira is showing the devil to be a joke...which is fine by me. SuperGogeta91 18:40, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

The same way I don't want to hear about you being religious. It isn't a personal opinion, to believe in God would be the same as to abandon logic, to be retarted. All the gods you think may exist have been continuously proven to be false. If something like a god existed (which is impossible for many reasons), he would be far too complex for you to comprehend. "I may be just a pothole in the road to you big guy, but it's going to be one hell of a deep pothole." - Tien 18:59, December 2, 2011 (UTC)


Again the topic is about Religion and how DBZ fits/strays from satanic influences. So saying something like "The same way I don't want to hear about you being religious." is ignorant and only showing how much you hate Religion in general. No one here wants to know how much you hate Religion, or how "stupid" is it. If you hate Religion, don't go on a Religious topic. I don't go to an Athiest conversation/video and say "HAHAHA HERP DERP, Athiests believe we're monkeys HAHAHA!" So sad. SuperGogeta91 19:10, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I am pointing this out because stupid Christians are being like "omg satan, this is evil" and all that. Also, if you are serious about the monkey part then I feel sorry for you. "I may be just a pothole in the road to you big guy, but it's going to be one hell of a deep pothole." - Tien 19:37, December 2, 2011 (UTC)


Great. You hate Christianity and think it's stupid. Is that all? I have better things to do then argue with someone who randomly comments on how so-and-so's Religion is. SuperGogeta91 19:54, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

'Think' is not the same thing as 'know'. And nobody ever said you had to argue.

You are claiming that your opinion is a fact. Hypocrite. Fatdude 08:04, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Goten's Thoughts: I am a born again Christian who loves Jesus with my whole heart and personally i do not see anything in Dragonball Z that is promoting devil worship. In fact the heroes like Goku are constantly battling demonic creatures who are trying to take over the world. Even King Kai called it despicable when Mr Satan stole the credit from Gohan by telling the world that he had defeated Cell. Personally as a Christian i do not like the name Mr Satan or his car with 666 painted on the side of it. But then again he is supposed to represent a WWE wrestler type guy and anyone who watches WWE wrestlers will realize that they usually name themselves after some kind of super villain. The only truly satanic people in the show are the villains that goku and his friends fight against. If anything i think dragonball discourages satanism and black magic. Omega Shenron was the last villain in Dragonball Gt and surprise Goku defeated him. The real surprise is that Omega Shenron is a depiction of baphomet or better known as Satan. How can anyone honestly say that Dragonball promotes devil worship when Omega Shenron aka the Devil is defeated by Goku's universal spirit bomb? Tell me what devil worshiper out there would like watching a cartoon where the devil is destroyed by Goku? The answer of course is none and for all i know it could be devil worshipers spreading disinformation by claiming Dragonball z is satanic so people wont watch it? In my opinion dragonball z has more family morals in it than any other cartoon i have ever seen. Dragonball Z teaches many virtues like Faith, Honor, Friendship, Teamwork, Perseverance, Selflessness, Lending a helping hand, and fighting to defend the lives of innocent people. I really appreciated Android 16 speech to Gohan and in my opinion it was the best speech of any anime.

Android 16 to Gohan: “Gohan, let it go. It is not a sin, to fight for the right cause. There are those, who words alone will not reach. Cell is such a being. I know how you feel, Gohan. You are gentle. You do not like to hurt. I know because I too have learned these feelings. But is because you cherish life that you must protect it. Please. Drop your restraints. Protect the life I loved. (Gohan shaking) You have the strength. My scanner sensed it. Just...let it go” Then Cell walks over to 16 and crushes his head.

Then a white Dove appears and Gohan lets out a mighty yell as he transforms into a Super Saiyan 2 for the first time.

I find it interesting that a white dove appeared when Gohan went super saiyan 2 because as any true christian who reads his bible would know the dove is the symbol of the Holy Spirit.

Conclusion i do not see how anyone could come to the conclusion that Dragonball Z promotes satanism when from everything that i have seen it does the exact opposite. --Goten Loves Life 10:37, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Puns

Mr. Satan's name is just part of the pun theme Akira loves to put in his work. Saiyans = Vegetables, like Kakarot is a pun of carrot, the fruit puns with Frieza's henchmen, just the same thing. If anything, Mr. Satan is shown as a very clumsy, moronic character, who is constantly getting embarrased, and almost several times lost his reputation as a hero. The name doesn't really mean anything if the character acts nothing like it. I mean, it's like saying Appule should be eating apples all the time, or whatever, or Nappa should own a cabbage factory. It doesn't really mean anything, having a character named say "Bruce" doesn't really matter to the whole story, it's just a name you chose for a normal guy. Also, Mr. Satan's first name is Mark, which is also a pun of a demonic thing, but could still be just a name. It's only a cartoon/manga series, it's not trying to throw deep religious commentary at you, Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z has never tried to be that clever and deliver those kind of messages, at least, not very often. TheTenkaichiBudokai 10:48, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can't someone make it a rule to stop posting stupid conspiracy theories?! This is really pissing me off. It's a TV show! There's an episode of spongebob where he goes to learn magic from a wizard and there are eyes (like the evil eye) all over the walls. Is spongebob squarepants satanic? By this logic it is! Fatdude 11:03, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Goten's Opinion On Subliminal Messages

As I said I am a born again Christian and therefore it is only right that I tell the truth. Let’s face it the Sponge Bob cartoon does promote the masonic lodge aka Illuminati and in that sense it is satanic. It is also disturbing that Disney movies are full of subliminal messages and even Disney’s the little mermaid is based on greed, disobedience to parents and wanting stuff that isn’t yours. Pokémon teaches children that you can settle your disputes by having your pets fight it out and whoevers pet wins gets the prize. Let’s face it any cartoon that promotes animal abuse like Pokémon is no good for children to watch. I could give a whole list of cartoons that are bad for children to watch but I won’t because it would take a whole book to do it. The only cartoon I watch is Dragonball because it is the only anime series I know of that isn’t filled with hundreds of subliminal messages. Goten Loves Life 07:47, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Any kid that would believe that having little pets fight to the death is a good way to settle disputes needs therapy, not TV. Little mermaid showed disobedience to parents to be bad and dangerous in the end. And spongebob isn't satanic. The show is making fun of the occult, if anything. They show "magic" to be stupid and fake in that episode. Are you a conspiracy theorist? Believe me, you're taking all that stuff too seriously. Spongebob is comedy, little mermaid is a love story, and Pokemon is about collecting and friendship. No one who believes that what they see in cartoons is real and true and trustworthy should be watching television. Believe me. There are no subliminal messages in what you just talked about. As for subliminal messages in Naruto, on the other hand... Fatdude 07:55, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Goten's Opinion On Dragonball Z

Dragonball Z is not satanic for one thing doesn’t anyone understand the significance of the Son family? Son Goku, Son Chi Chi, Son Gohan, Son Goten, Son Videl, and Son Pan. Doesn’t anyone notice that the name Son is the name used for God’s family aka the sons of God? Then on the other hand you have the Satan family example Mr Satan and Videl Satan. One other thing to note is Videl started off as a mean girl who blackmailed Gohan into teaching her how to fly but later on she became friendly and married Gohan thus becoming part of the Son family in fact you might even say the new Videl resembled a repentant sinner. Cant anyone see the names are just puns created by Akira Toriyama and anyone who still thinks its satanic should consider that the mean Videl Satan became the kind hearted Videl Son. Even the Saiyan names are vegetable puns Broly is broccoli, Vegeta is vegetable, Kakarot is carrot, Radits is radish, Paragus is asparagus. Do your research and you will find out that dragonball is filled with funny puns and virtually every character name is a pun and symbolic of something. Goten Loves Life 08:48, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Staying along the lines you're speaking in, I don't know if I would say it's completely void of subliminal messages, but at the same time that's the thing about Dragon Ball and at least a couple other favorite shows of mine (particularly anime). They include themes and symbols which could be taken as subliminal programming by anyone looking just hard enough, which may have been how they were let on the air in the first place, but going beyond the items and looking at the context of their presence within the story reveals clear subversions that are actually pretty good. Have a look at the scouters from Frieza and the Cold family's planet trade organization, for example.
They go over one eye and allow you to identify the measure and source of power levels from far out of your own line of sight. If you're as into certain theories as you seem, you can probably figure out where this is going. However, herein lies the rub. First, I reiterate -- the scouters from Frieza and the Cold family's planet trade organization. Frieza being the ultimate in soulless world-ruling businessmen in fiction, in fact he's based on Akira Toriyama's own vision of what a monster is. Secondly, that over-glorified trope of power levels is turned right on its head. With few exceptions, EVERY major planet trade soldier that fell in battle had relied on a scouter reading that was weaker than their own and thought they had the fight won before it even started. Because the good guys (and Vegeta) learned how to not only sense others' ki organically, but to mask their own as well, and could explode their ki in bursts of fury (especially Gohan), Frieza and his goons' reliance on scouter data became their undoing. Pardon the language, but in the words of Lanipator as Vegeta from Team Four Star's DBZ Abridged series, "POWER LEVELS ARE BULL$#!%!" Or, more to a point that speaks to you, their "all-seeing eye" technology truly saw nothing at all. --PacChampion3D-17 20:37, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

You have done a excellent job on explaining how Goku fights the new world order aka Frieza’s world trade organisation. That is why I love Dragonball because Goku and the rest of the Z fighters are dedicated to fighting the new world order. Even Dr Gero is a perfect example of a trans humanist who wishes to become like god and take over the world. The wizard Babidi would be akin to a new world order eugenicist who believes humanity is a disease that must be eradicated at all cost. You are right when you compare the scouters with the all seeing eye and you also explained how the eye was completely blind to the hidden Saiyan powers. Dragonball Z is an accurate depiction of how this world actually works and how evil is constantly creeping around looking for an opportunity to resurface again. Goten Loves Life 22:14, July 17, 2012 (UTC)


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I read somewhere that Akira wanted to make an reverse on Santa Claus, so he wrote Satan, not knowing what it meant.

That's clearly a lie, since he knows full well what Satan means. The Japanese aren't a sheltered people; they have the internet, too. He fully intended for the name "Mr. Satan" to reference to the devil, since his daughter and granddaughter both follow the naming convention. --DARK 01:30, October 28, 2012 (UTC)


dude, dragon ball the manga was release between 1986 - 1995. there was no internet back then. and japanese people are all buddhist and stuff, maybe it was true Akira didnt know what Satan meant.

And notice that Mr. Satan comes first on the Cell games, then in the Majin Buu saga when he was told what Satan meant he made those references to the devil purposely, as Videl's name and Gohan's car with a 666 201.68.38.77 02:57, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Modern Internet has been around since 1989. --DARK 02:21, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

The internet was only for military purposes... Common people only had internet after 1997

Hi there guys, am I was wondering the other day doing some research and I stumbled across this topic. I wanted to know the truth, and thats why I started doing research. For far as I can tell cover has been pulled up across our eyes in many things, not sure if DBZ is one of them but I will try to analyise it further.

As I learned in my research ( off topic, my research was heavily focused of theory of evolution) that nothing is an accident and that everything in this life happens for a reason. I'm pretty sure you guys are familiar with various secret societies..all of which I believe to hold all the strings in the modern world. 

Dragon Ball has influenced me in my life on various aspects. For example, it motivated me to train and to stand up for myself, it also tought me that what matters in frendship and loyalty. I'm blessed to be able to see good things in almost everything - at least for now. 

As for religion, a part of my already mentioned research, I was only able to strenghten my christian faith as my research progressed. Then, after some time, I understood that we are somehow being manipulated subconsciously thru the media. The next big question was, ofc, was DBZ one of those manipulative tools?

I was unwiling to accept the idea as I have been fond of DBZ for so long, and since it has helped me in a way, so I wanted to be sure, one way or the other. Unlike Naruto,in which I saw direct satanic messages( look at sharingan-666 tomoe,and those handsigns,chakra,invocations- all occult practices. If you break it down you will see direct violation of God's 1st commandment. Yea also they promote elements, fire,earth,wind,water,thunder- new age.)For DBZ I don't see that direct link. Maybe its hidden or not, but definately I do not see anything in DBZ that promotes Satanism. As you guys mentioned earlier mr. Satan could be indeed a message to all the people about the upcoming events- antichrist the deciever and his army of "fans"- hence, the world that has been decieved and manipulated into worshiping him. Maybe Toriyama was even aware of the prophecies fullfiled in the Bible, and decided to indirectly warn us about the upcoming events. Maybe, maybe not.

Respect to all of the atheists and agnostics out there (whom in my opinion should have not even went onto this topic- no belief in God, no belief in devil- useless topic for them, as far as I can see.) Also respect to adherents of other religions. 

In conclusion, I doubt that DBZ has a satanic message. Ofc we christians should be careful that anything that is highly regarded among people should be taken with caution- as we all know who is the king of this world. So, DBZ could be neutral, when all comes together. Porhaps even positive.

Does a name really make the show satanic? 

YOUR ALL FOOLS 67% OF YOU AT LEAST.

lol. all of you are satanic. its funny because the ones that say it isnt satanic is either athiest or some other religion. If you are christian and you dissagree then you need to go to church. mostly everything in this world is satanic. people try to hide it from you so you wouldnt be scared and you would be entertained. try to listen to songs backwords, you can hear satanic codes and such in songs. try to wath on youtube this channel called TheTruthMayScareYou. i was freaked out when i saw it. like seriously its horrible especially if you live in the united states. everyone in the world arent perfect, no one can reallyrun from satanic things in the world unless you go to church. ANYONE WHO IS MUSLIM,HINDU,BUDDHIST AND ESPECIALLY ATHIEST! please dont read this if your athiest. I HATE ATHIESTS they dont listen to reason and they always want to piss off a christian in some way. SORRY IM GETTING OFF TOPIC. dragon ball z is a awesome show that i love watching, no one can really avoid satanic thinks even if they wanted to. all im saying is if you know this do something, god will forgive everyone. no matter how much horrific things you have done. BUT IF YOU KNOW THIS AND KEEP DOING IT YOU MAY GO TO HELL. i wont say you will because i dont know.god will decide that for everyone. i just want to say onelast thing, HA HA BITCHES 2012 WASNT THE END OF THE WORLD. lol whatever. i hope you guys figure out this issue either if the makers are illuminati or if the creaters were being retarde and wanted to piss off christians.

Bluh.

The person above me. >_>

I am christian. Born and raised. And I go to church. And sorry to say...But you might want to go to a mental asylum.

--Thanatos209 (talk) 11:46, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds pretty logical to me. Look at all those murders that repent in prison; they obviously go to heaven. We're all going to hell because we watch a cartoon, though. --DARK 20:27, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

What's that? Someone ranting about religion on a forum completely unrelated to religion? Par for the course :\ Janemba4eva (talk) 22:47, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

I actually watched the first part (there's, like, 15) of that video, and it may be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Half of it's just bad music playing to still images of people holding their hand over their eye, and the rest is just reading way too much into intentional biblical allusions in the media. They went all out trying to indoctrinate you into their doomsday cult, though; they had animation they created themselves (I think) and the rapper Prodigy speaking for them. --DARK 00:46, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

Nobody Seems to get this, so I'll explain.

There's a perfectly viable reason that Hercule is named "Mr. Satan". In other nations, it's not uncommon for a proffesional fighting or wrestling champion to be given a name like that to imply fear and respect, and show that he's a deadly fighter. Haven't you ever heard "El Diablo" used as a fighter name, for instance? It's like a wrestling name, get it? His and his daughter's name are just part of the many family lineage name-schemes in DBZ (Although, this one is admitedly rather creepy). I was similarly confused by this stuff at first, but when you think about it, DBZ is really pretty wholesome compared to a lot of anime that have seriously twisted themes and uses of occult magic and demon characters. The DBZ Universe really ressembles an old mythology more than it does reality, being ruled by a number of flawed gods and having an afterlife based on deeds and such. As well as having a herculeon hero like Goku who surpasses many of the gods. The series is really more comical than people think it is much of the time.


i just played connect the dots and was looking to see if anyone else noticed... i love the the saying artist use lies to tell truth .. DBZ is a great work of art. a quick run of my discovery is Mr. Satan is the anticrist whom the people of earth thought to be the saver of man from Cell. thr number 666 is refering to carbon, wich man is mostly made of, man created mans demise by creating Cell... ... luciferians are belived to be from the planet Mars and came here to earth and was trapped here. they are very powerfull ... some are good and are the gardians of earth... and created Christianity (look it up) piccolo and Dende are representing the lucifirians, from Namik.. it is said, after the anticrist reveals himself there will be 7 years of peace. thus there being 7 year since the cell games. judgement day will then be upond the people. ie Majin buu, also comes the mark of the beast.... im sure there is much more to be found... what do you think???

TROLLOL...!

people are trippin'.. Hercule Satan is used for comic relief to display that Goku & the Z+Fighters are obviously far stronger & realer than he'll ever be.. so Hercule Satan is basically a joke in the Dragon Ball Universe.. LOL...! Akira Toriyama rearranges syallables of words/uses puns derived from what relates to the character (ie. Saiya-jin: Yasai - Japanese for Vegetable, Vegeta is the Prince of all Saiya-jin's, Yajin - Japanese suffix for person also translated as "wildman", reference to the barbaric nature of the Saiya-jin's.)

Gokū, the main Dragon Ball (Z/GT) Protagonist, is an Enlightened Spiritual Master of the highest Element, 空(Kū/Sora) http://24.media.tumblr.com/5ea4ce0a1cd54b2576e8daea8edffe7b/tumblr_mhu1xgQMGq1qfp0n5o1_1280.jpg

in Dragon Ball, Gokū stops the evil self-proclaimed "demon king"{makio} Piccolo's "new world order", & certainly a whole lot more throughout DB, DBZ, & DBGT.. :+) ~


..not to offend any religious pupils out there but....: the name 'jesus' did not exist until 500 years ago.. the letter 'j' is also non-existent in the Greek, Latin, & Hebrew languages, the languages which the 'Bible' is made up of.. the world 'christian' stems from the word 'cretin' which means 'mentally retarded person'....

..the final letter in the Greek alphabet is 'Omega', Syn/'Omega'-Shenron is the final Shadow Dragon whom Gokū defeats with a Universal Spirit Bomb(全世界の元気玉, Zensekai no Genki Dama; 元気玉, Genki Dama; lit. "Energy Sphere" - its' name is a pun on denki gama, meaning "electric rice cooker" in Japanese. the "evil containment wave" used in Dragon Ball against the evil self-proclaimed "demon king" Piccolo also includes an electric rice cooker) - to use the Spirit Bomb technique, one must be completely Pure of Heart. Gokū is known for being Pure Hearted, which is why he was able to master the Spirit Bomb, & use the technique against ruthless evil adversaries..

..in Dragon Ball: Sleeping Princess In Devil's Castle, a young Saiya-jin kid Goku, stops (& defeats with a Kamehameha Wave :+) the evil makioshin/vampyre, Count de Lucifer from using the Sleeping Princess[a beautiful & powerful diamond, capable of harnessing Energy] with the negative intent to destroy the Sun [the Sun's Energy basically being garlic to the vampyre/demon. Son Gokū is loosely based off of the Chinese Monkey King, Sūn Wukōng - the word Yang is originated from Chinese meaning Sun/Positive :+]

..also, keep in mind that the Earth is well over 10,000 years old.. & there exists countless extra+Solar Planets in other Solar Systems/Galaxies.. DON'T BE SO CLOSED MINDED PEOPLE...! ~

it should be noted that Akira Toriyama heavily incorporates the Tao/Dao into Dragon Ball, Gokū is basically the Master/Leader Buddha(Maitreya, the Future Buddha, who is superior to all Buddhas, Devas, & Gods, teaching the Dharma[Sanskrit "Cosmic Decree/Custom"] x Tao/Dao [Chinese "Natural Way & Truth of the Universe"]). Gokū + the Z+Fighters are Sūpā Tao/Dao Legends! the Chinese Tao/Dao predates christianity/most religions.. JUST SAIYAN...! ~

Question

What does satanic mean?(i really don't know) GBV6 I am GBV5 GokuBrolyVegeta. GBV7 20:04, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

NO! S

Yes it is!

I do believe Dragon ball is satanic.

Why do you think they had 666 on the car, Gohan and Videl were driving on.

Why do you think people kept praising Mr.Satan like crazy, saying his name like as if a real devil worshiper would do.

Why do you Videl was wearing a  satanic goat shirt in DBZ BoG, and dont you dare say there isnt anything satanic about that!

Tien with the third eye, using of what Jay Z does, IS IT A COINCIDENCE, NO!!

Im sorry folks but the facts are just too true, quit making excuses and except it!!

I love Dragon ball, Dragon ball Z and I even kind of like Dragon Ball GT, but we need to except the things that we have here, that one of the most influential shows of all time, is not as innocent as we think, I just dont understand why would Akira Toriyama would do this.

Spyrocks (talk) 21:52, March 12, 2014 (UTC)Spyrocks


1. Because the pun for her family's names had been based on the the words Satan and devil, so it's referencing that.

2. Because he's a celebrity. Have you seen how WE treat those kinds of people?

3. See number 1. Referencing that again.

4. .....not even going to bother with the third eye part. You can look up what that is on your own.....

As for the Jay Z comment, three things. One, if this is a serious argument, I think Jay Z would have stolen it from Tien considering when Dragonball Z was first released. Second, plenty of celebrities give the same sign. Third, it is supposedly a reference to a secret elite society, not something satanic. Side note though: if it really was a real secret society, why would they be alright with members constantly advertising it by making their super duper secret sign?


So yeah, in a discussion on a fourm about Dragonball Z, I spent more time in 1 post talking about why Jay Z is dumb instead of actually talking about Dragonball Z.....I feel dirty.....

BlueMew1234 (talk) 16:54, March 13, 2014 (UTC)BlueMew1234

This is Funny! But also a bit sad

I love how the people who are claiming that Dragonball Z is satanic and evil because Mr. Satan's stage name is what it is are still actively looking at things related to Dragonball. Kind of ironic that they would come to a wiki dedicated to something they have refered to as satanic and look at the fourms on said wiki.

I am a bit saddened by the cultural ignorance of a few people though. It seems like quite a few of the things they're taking as signs of something are related to a culture they don't understand. Rather than learn what something means, they just label it as evil.

Oh well, at least the comments are entertaining!

BlueMew1234 (talk) 16:47, March 13, 2014 (UTC)BlueMew1234

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