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While flying to Namek, Goku trained in 100 times Earth's gravity, which means he was jumping around while weighing around 15000-20000 lbs. Similarly, when Goku was training for the tournament at the beginning of the Buu saga, he was able to (with difficulty) lift 40 tons in his base form, when South Kai changed the weights. Goku shouldn't be limited to 40 tons in base form is he is able to accomplish the feats he displayed throughout the series, such as: Crushing people into the ground, creating crators. Punching people through multiple mountains etc. If he was truly only able to lift 40 tons, then that would make him physically weaker than even Roanora Zoro, who lifted a building that weighed around 100-300 tons. AT knows not what he has done by specifying a low number like 40,000. "I may be just a pothole in the road to you big guy, but it's going to be one hell of a deep pothole." - Tien 19:57, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

40 tons backed by super martial arts like Goku has learned would explain some of his feats of strength. Some martial arts teach you how to hit a lot harder than you logically should, and he knows ones not even invented on this Earth. That's how Goku can be powerful while still having more fictional characters being "stronger" than him. The key word is "power", which is distinct from strength. Being able to lift more does not necessarily mean you hit harder; striking power has more to do with explosive striking speed, and using proper technique to deliver more body mass in the quick strike. E(k) = m(v^2)/2, if you remember your grade school physics, and striking power is about the ability to deliver kinetic energy into your target. The exponential (squaring) effect of speed is why striking specialists like boxers can hit harder than weight lifters... though a weight lifter is strong enough to pull a person apart, which is about strength rather than power. This matter of energy delivery is also why a hit from a fast moving car will do more damage to a pedestrian than a slow moving truck (unless the person is up against a brick wall or similar).

So to better explain the vast hitting strength of Dragoball characters, add in that they have very good hitting technique and overwhelming power, as illustrated by their displays of superhuman speed.

If only I could master the KameHameHa! 01:29, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

A simple answer to all of this lifting strength is that the 40 ton is inconsistent and should be ignored. Their were many inconsistencies in the Buu arc.

1. Gohan taking 20 minutes to get home at top speed for a 1000 km distance, when goku on snakeway was able to fly even faster than this. 2. Goten and Trunks being seen by people in their fight, when in early db people couldn't even see goku or tiens movements.

3. Piccolo being weaker than base saiyans, including gohan who didn't train for 7 years. 4. Piccolo being considered weaken by Kai-o-shin who considered a guy who trains at 10x gravity and some freaky lizard things a threat.

It was recently brought to my attention that Goku was lifting 40 tons in 10 times Earth's gravity which is quite a bit more impressive. 400 tons is nothing to snuf at, I mean if we saw someone in real life lift that our minds would probably be blown.

If only I could master the KameHameHa! 15:10, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Very. Tenshinhan as by feeh05051995-d3j8iti TienShinhan88TalkContrib Tenshinhan saiyan saga by feeh05051995-d3j8j89 15:11, December 12, 2011 (UTC)