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I'm just confused now. So if they're making this Dragonball Hoshi, does that mean Gt isn't canon, or is it still a sequel to Z?Msdbzfanssjelite 19:39, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

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Yes and no

Yes it is if you go by the Anime but if you go by the manga then no it's not.VegitoSSVegito SSJ4SSJ4 VegetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSupremegogetaGoku,Vegeta,Gogeta,VegitoSs4goku animeSs4GOGETAGogeta photo 19:43, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

|Non-canon all the way! Dragonball GT was not based on the Dragonball manga nor it was created by Akira Toriyama therefore, it should be regarded as non-canon just like all the Dragonball/Z movies. Many (most?) fans of the Dragonball series sees Dragonball GT as a horrible addition to the franchise. Some people prefer to think of it as just a long fanfic or a "what-if" doujinshi that was adapted into an anime - Jcdizon416 21:01, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yup

You can go to the Dragon Ball GT page for this one. Dragon Ball GT was an anime created by the makers of the DBZ anime, supervised, strictly overseen, and designed by Akira Toriyama. Though a loud minority of fans seem to think it is not part of the series, this is not actually the case. Toriyama has had positive feelings towards the series, drawing many pictures for it, including his version of Super Saiyan 4 for the Dragon Box GT. In regards to inconsistencies, GT has the least amount of inconsistencies of all three series http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Inconsistencies. Also, Dragon Ball GT does not have the criteria for lack of validity that Dragon Ball AF has http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonball_af. BubblesNoShakuran13Goku 20SSJ4 1 21:44, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Yup

Of course GT has the least amount of inconsistencies. The inconsistencies usually come from filler vs story, for example Master Roshi's young appearance is contradicted between story and filler, or in DBZ when Tien, Yamucha, Kuririn, and Chaozu were sent back in time to fight Saiyans from a 100 years ago, that directly contradicts the story of the Saiyan war (as shown on the list you posted). GT would have the least inconsistencies because there was no manga for it, thus, no filler. Akira Toriyama was only an art consultant, and had nothing to do with the story. Doesn't matter if he drew some concepts or not. It's not part of the story he made. TheDarkAss

No, definitely not!

I'm not saying that it isn't because I don't like it. I do. In fact, I actually liked GT a lot better than the last Saga of DBZ but I'm sorry, it is not cannon. How do I know? Because of DBO, which Akira Toriyama did work on. The events of DBGT are not discussed in DBO. They did not happen. Why not? Because DBO takes the entire story from the Manga, and nothing from a movie or a non-manga piece of story. As everyone knows, something that is not in the Manga is usually marked as filler, or what if. I do wish that they would at least acknowledge GT as an alternate timeline, but they do not. It is not cannon.

It is impossible for DBO to be fully canon, despite how much Akira Toriyama worked on it. In a player-controlled game, the players will control the outcome of the game. Therefore, it would have literally millions of protagonists solving the same story, making every single one of those a what-if. GT has a real story line from beginning to end. --DARK 00:30, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

While it is true that the events of DBO aren't cannon due to the fact that players determine the story, there are events that happened before DBO that were created for DBO that are canon. The events that happened leading to DBO give no heed to the events of GT, and since the manga also gives no heed to the story of GT (since there was no Manga for it), there are two sources saying GT plainly doesn't exist. Two sources to one, to me that's enough proof to say the events are not canon. The most I can concede to is the idea of an alternate timeline. --TheDarkAss

The question is do I believe DBGT is canon; No. However, will I judge anyone who thinks otherwise; probably... maybe a little, but that doesn't make me unequivocally correct. The main problem I have with the series in general is the fact that they didn't have a story to tell, not really at least. What was put out there was whatever they perceived the fans wanted. In the beginning they thought they'd win everyone back over by making things more Dragon Ball-esque, that didn't work out so they figured they go back to the DBZ formula and start introducing one seemingly insurmountable foe after the other... Didn't really work either.

Plus I don't buy it, I can't believe that these characters can keep finding enemies who are waay stronger than the last one they have encountered, honestly in that regard I had a hard time believing anything passed the Frieza saga, but that was ignored because I enjoyed the Cell saga and the ones that led up to it.

I can't wrap my head around the idea of a character who is immensely stronger than a planet buster (Freiza), could be hurt by anything less than a planet busting attack. How do they fight on a planet without obliterating it? All of the serious threat fights should be taking place in space, yet characters like Cell, the Buu's, Baby, Super 17, Omega Shenron, each one ridiculously stronger than the last, are all planet busters of whom were killed while on a planet, with the planet remaining relatively intact.(with Baby as the exception, even though most of the battle was on a planet and still unbelievable).

Now this isn't necessarily an argument as to why I believe GT isn't canon, mostly because all of my reasons for this have been mentioned one way or another by someone else. This is just why I'm glad it's being ignored and treated like non-canon.


EDIT: Akira Toriyama has come out and said, in the light of Battle of the Gods realease, that GT is NOT cannon. It has been stated 100%. (insert source here)

Anime Canon

GT is on the same level of canon as filler. Not based off the manga, but still made by Toei and officially released. As such, you can call it anime canon. In other words, there are two main DB universes.

Anime Universe - Filler, and GT both "happen". If a movie fits into the timeline, it can be placed in this universe.

Manga Universe - The highest level of canon. Filler and GT are absent, or at least not shown.

GotenjumpYamcha626TalkContribsYamchaDB03 02:29, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

The above posters have the right idea.

I like to think that it's canon to the anime and not the manga. That helps to avoid long arguments and I think that it's a fair conclusion. Even though the anime is heavily based off of the manga, there are enough differences between the two to almost consider them as different canons. So, if you are a DB manga enthusiast, then it's non canon. If you are an anime enthusiast, then it IS canon. Fair enough? 71.197.172.107 11:48, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes (But not Funimation)

Personally, I believe it's canon. According to the dictionarry, Canon is "the conceptual material accepted as "official" ". Because Toriyama orversaw and DESIGNED GT, it is completely canon. It would be the equivilant of a "Straight-to-Video" Movie from a comic (IE Batman). The original creater made the series, so Yes. The funimation episode is not in my mind, they twisted it to their own creation, leaving the whole plot in a mess. If your gonna watch it, watch the remastered uncut version.



The idea that Toriyama is involved = CANON! is always flawed.

Toriyama worked on Dragonball Online, which, applying your logic, means it is canon. The problem is that events mentioned to have happened in the history of DBO contridict events from DBGT.

The manga is technically the only true canon for Dragonball/Z. The different anime adaptions all introduce non-canon elements or create plot holes not present in the original.

BlueMew1234 (talk) 17:30, May 27, 2014 (UTC)Bluemew1234

Only if u consider the movies canon.

The show was created by Toei with the influence of Toriyama here and there. If anything it should be considered a sidestory/what if and nothing more.

IT IS!

Yes it is canon. If you say it's not, you are also saying that all the episode fillers in DB and DBZ are not canon, which would create several holes in the anime.

DGT is canon in the ANIME timeline. But not canon in the MANGA timeline.

No it is not.

Inconsistancy has nothing to do with weather it is canon or not. Goku fights nothing like how he did in the canon story. End of story, there is no argument for it.

It's canon depending on how much you like DBZ, and how well you know the characters

It's very much dependent on the person watching. Some people watch and see no difference whatsoever between Z and GT. Whereas others find it so completely alien and unrelatable that it's an insult to behold, like a slap in the face.

If you're happy to have someone take your favourite characters, change them to the point of being unrecognisable, have them do things they never would have, say things that don't fit their personality, and become so reduced to the point of irrelevancy that they're basically the new Puar and Oolong, then you'll be okay with GT. But keeping perspective, it's not as bad as Goku being a whiny emo kid that goes to highschool, it's not the worst thing ever.

Personally, I can't find it in myself to stand for it. You can't just take a character, change everything that defined them and made them who they were, call them Vegeta or Trunks, and just expect me to say, oh, okay, that's Vegeta and Trunks, just because you say so.

I'm a DBZ fan, and to me the creators of GT weren't DBZ fans, or else they were only Goku fans, because they give all the attention to Goku, they never give a single other character a meaningful fight. Out of 37 different individuals Goku could fight throughout DBZ (and this is excluding transformations), 42 if you include the Garlic jr saga, Goku only beats 7 of them (9 in the Saiyan saga, 9 in the Frieza saga, 13 in the Cell saga, 6 in the Buu saga). Overall, he beats Nappa, Vegeta, Recoome, Burter, Frieza, Yakon and Buu. He didn't fire the blast that killed Raditz, that was more Piccolo's victory with an assist from Goku. He also threw a frog at Ginyu, if that counts, so maybe it's 8 victories if you want to add that. But even then, Vegeta killed Nappa, Recoome and Burter, Gohan, Krillin and Yajirobe had a large assist against Vegeta, Trunks killed Frieza, and the people of Earth and the Z-fighters gave the energy for him to beat Kid Buu with a Spirit Bomb.

I'm not saying Goku isn't important or awesome, he is, but the point is he doesn't do everything in DBZ, quite the opposite. In GT he does everything.

'Just a minor correction, 'Raditz would not have been defeated if it wasn't for Gohan's attack that weakened Raditz. I agree, though. Goku did everything in GT. Vegeta seemed to be weaker and never even went SS2 that I can remember. Goten, Trunks and Gohan were all weaker which is probably the biggest tragedy of the entire series. Had Goten, Trunks and especially Gohan (who should have still had the Elder Kai's power, but was able to go super saiyan in GT instead) who was the strongest character at the end of the Cell games and technically, was also the strongest at the end of DBZ could be come so weak and apparently his Ultimate form was forgotten about. Goten, Trunks and Gohan should have played more of a role. Not even a single fusion from Trunks and Goten as adults, also disappointing. Pan is strong, it seems she's even stronger than Trunks, Goten and Gohan which is ridiculous as well as being braver. I watched GT in the english dub, but also with english subtitles from the japanese version and I couldn't believe how different the dub was from the subs. The subs made GT much better for me, almost none of the original content from the J version of GT was kept in the english dub and some of it was quite funny. Some conversations are completely changed for seemingly no real reason at all.

Even still, Toriyama helped with the story and even drew the character designs for most of the characters, but he was tired of drawing DB and just gave guidance to the story. In the credits, Toriyama is listed as the author of DBGT which would seem to make it canon. Giru was a nice touch, but they could have made Pan stronger. I read that Toriyama never had a female super saiyan because he couldn't figure out how she would look which seems kind of silly to me. Pan did play some important roles, however, but the absence of Goten, Trunks, Gohan, Pan, Bulla (who was half saiyan, but never fought at all) and even Vegeta to a lesser extent as being stronger and more involved in the fighting and better at fighting was disappointing. Vegeta just got his ass kicked whenever he fought. Out of all the ones I listed, Pan actually was the most useful and she wasn't even a super saiyan.

Nonetheless, DBGT had significant influence and input from Toriyama, who is credited as the author of the series and for the character designs. It is anime canon. I didn't find GT to be that bad mostly because I had the english subs, too. It's nowhere close to DBZ, though. The movie "A Hero's Legacy" was pretty lame aside from maybe the last three minutes and should have never been made. It just shows Goku Jr. being a big wussy crybaby for the majority of the series and he didn't even know how to fly (Pan should have taught him that at the very least) and had no control over his power, much like Gohan when he was a child. The movie isn't even worth watching, IMO.

GT is anime canon, it's author is Toriyama, so how can it not be canon? GT had a decent plot line, it wasn't as terrible as people make it out to be, but it doesn't really compare to DB or DBZ in terms of epicness. By this time, Toriyama had become tired of drawing DBZ and had reached the end of his desire to do it which led to a reduced role, but he still authored it and had significant input into the story. GT is canon, but it's one of those situations where Toriyama was done with the series, but tried to force himself to do more. His heart just wasn't in it anymore, that's really what it came down to IMO. GT is worth watching, but I would use english dub and english subtitles. You'll be surprised how much nearly every single line in the subs is different from the voicing in the dub.

GT is,canon to the anime even I personally think it is a continuation to dbz anime and manga no matter what others say.

Yes/no

It's canon to the anime but not to the manga and the manga is what everything is supposed to be based off. Dragon ball GT wasn't based off the manga. There was no manga for it at all. Akira toriyama who wrote dragon ball and dragon ball Z, didn't write GT. He only supervised it and drew the characters. The story for the game Dragon Ball Online, is written by akira toriyama and it disregards everything that happened in dragon ball GT. And although it could be canon to the anime, it has some stuff that contradicts dragon ball Z, and that's why some people don't consider canon at all.--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 18:46, January 5, 2013 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96


It is canon and non canon at the same time, and is a sequel, but not a main series

Dragon Ball GT may seem to be like a main series, but it is not actually main. It is a minor series, which was created by Toei Animation. Yes Akira Toriyama did do some editing of it, but he did not write the series. He may be seen as the Author in credits, that is because he created the Dragon Ball manga. Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z are the main two series. Dragon Ball GT can either be considered canon or non canon, it is up to you. I mean that the Story of  Dragon Ball can end by Dragon Ball Z, or by Dragon Ball GT. It is up to the fans to decide. And I have heard there are some fans making canon manga sequels to Dragon Ball GT. 

But how about the remaining 11 universes...

In the new movie, it is revealed that there are 12 universes. Isn't it possible that DBGT is in an alternate universe or if the movie setting IS in an alternate universe. Thus, making a possibility that GT is canon.

of course it's canon,it's not in the manga because when dbz anime finished they just started do the gt

...Wh.... What?


I think the remaining 11 universes are entirely different. Like, Trunks comes from a different timeline, but the same universe. The other universes are like none of these things happen and we might be in one of those universes.

Sandubadear (talk) 01:23, March 25, 2013 (UTC)


What if it's a sub-alternate reality apart from the other 12 universes created by Majin Buu's universe rift, then somehow scooped up by Trunks's time machine, then sealed away by Babidi's magic spell, then cast into the dead zone, then blown up by Bio Broly, then wished back with the dragon balls to be a universe of it's own by Frieza, Cell, Goku, Vegeta, Bardok, Shenron and Puar while they were all fighting over the dragon balls and someone said the wrong words? Then ya got your GT. Ya think?

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..saying GT is ‘canon’ is basically saying that the anime fillers, along with the specials + movies, are also ‘canon’..

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GT is the present DB(Z) world/timeline/dimension[/the Seventh Universe].. all 'side-stories' are apart of the Seventh known Dragon Ball (Z/GT) Universe - but one must comprehend that DB(Z/GT) is multi-dimensional[/MultiUniversal], with various sub-alternate timelines/dimensions within the same Universe.

no, Dragon Ball GT is not 'canon'.. do people even realize that Toei Animation loved Dragon Ball Z so much that they decided to continue the series?.. [with permission of the original manga Author, of course: Akira Toriyama :+]

& concerning Son Gokū Jr. being a 'wussy cry-baby' in the GT special, "A Hero's Legacy" : http://osupaxkamehamehax808o.tumblr.com/post/48103659668/or3pt1l14nxk1ll4o-my-father-gohan-trained

[ http://osupaxkamehamehax808o.tumblr.com/post/48104101347/or3pt1l14nxk1ll4o-goku-jr-transforms-into-a :+]

Gokū Jr. wasn't a 'wussy cry-baby'.. Gokū Jr. was a Pure Hearted loner[Kamehameha - Hawaiian for "the very lonely one/the one set-apart", a hermit is also someone who lives in solitude :+] who was frequently bullied.. he [at first] lacked the courage to stand up for what was right/did not believe in himself like his Great2x GrandFather, Son Gokū Sr... Gokū Jr. was relying on the power of the Dragon Balls to help his GrandMother Pan, also his newly made friend[once bully], Puck, rather than having courage & believing in himself.. at the end of the special, he realizes his Legacy, thanks to Gokū Sr., who reminds him that it was his Courage & Love that opened the right doors. :+)

  • did you know?..* that..: Gokū, as seen as an infant in the DBZ special/movie, "Bardock, The Father of Gokū", was shown [literally] as a cry-baby throughout the entire special/movie?.. Gohan, as a young child, prior/under Piccolo's training for the arrival of the Saiya-jin's, also had the same crying warrior Spirit that Gokū had.. if you see the DB.wikia page for Raditz..: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Raditz , you will see one of his alternate names being: "Cry baby Raditz".. & if you watch DBZ Movie 10, "Broly Second Coming", Broly is awakened by the cries of Goten [who Broly mistakes for Gokū].. [Gokū's Family share certain key traits, such as crying..] ..so in simpler words, 超サイヤ人(Sūpā Saiya-+jin)’s are fueled by their RagingSouls.. Pure blooded 超サイヤ人s tend to suppress their emotions, whereas hydrid-+超サイヤ人s give into their intense feelings of sadness & rage..

[サイヤ人(Saiya-jin)s RagingSouls are typically fueled by their natural barbaric サイヤ人 ruthless self-ambitions, a clear example being Vegeta, before successfully transforming into a 超サイヤ人 - the young サイヤ人 Prince hated Frieza & the entire Planet Trade Organization, & thought of himself as 'the strongest warrior in the universe', being the 'super-elite' he was/that he came from a Royal サイヤ人* bloodline. Vegeta even achieves  超サイヤ人 transformation-state due to the thought that a 'low-level piece of trash' could ever surpass him.. xD

& Bardock's RagingSoul was driven by the rage he felt towards Frieza & his 'elites', who set-up Bardock's crew, despite how loyal, & brave/courageous Bardock & his crew were to Frieza - taking on missions that baffled even Frieza's 'elites'. & in the manga/canon "Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock", Bardock transfoms into a  超サイヤ人 after his newly found friend Berry leaps forward, protecting Bardock from Chilled's finishing blow, in an act of courage to save him. however, Chilled notices this and shoots Berry with his Death Razor technique to eliminate the Plant for good. seeing this, Bardock becomes infuriated. for a short second, Bardock's anger causes him to see Chilled as Frieza, remembering his betrayal of the Saiyan race, and he becomes determined to avenge his crew and his newly found friend.  Bardock obtains a tremendous amount of energy, formed into waves flowing through his body, and with his might, he turns into the almighty Super Saiyan. The two warriors continue fighting, but with Bardock's newfound powers, he easily defeats Chilled and his minions.

"The power comes in response to a need, not a desire"
— Gokū :+]  ~

Yes and No

By definition, it is not canon to the manga. However, Akira Toriyama approved of the series and even provided some designs for it. To the anime, however, is a different argument. One could argue that it is canon to the anime as it is set in the timeline of the Dragon Ball universe. No matter how much haters moan and whine about it, it is set about 7 years after the final episode of Z, when Pan debuts. Battle of the Gods made this argument a little problematic, as the Pilaf gand used the dragon balls to make themselves kid again by accident, which technically makes it impossible for them to be old people in GT. In saying that, there is no saying that they could not have regathered the dragon balls and whished to be returned to their original age. Dragon Ball GT can fit into the timeline, but so can future Trunk's timeline, technically. it depends on how you look at it, as it is not always all about having a manga or not.


It Is Non Cannon

The new movie Battle Of Gods was stated to be cannon by Toriyama. The whole movie basically takes a dumb all over GT making Gt non cannon.

It doesn't matter whatever its canon or non-canon

It depends on you. You can consider it canon or non-canon. Besides, It just an anime. Not to be taken seriously.

Depends

Before Battle of Gods, it was up to you whether or not Dragon Ball GT was canon. However, Battle of Gods (which was stated to be canon) introduces Super Saiyan God, making this form the true successor of super saiyan 3, not super saiyan 4 anymore. That would give DBGT problems storywise because if Goku could transform into a SSJG, why didn't he? However, it is still possible DBGT could be canon. In Battle of Gods, Goku manages to use his SSJG powers in SSJ form, so it would explain why he didn't actually use the SSJG form itself. But then again, if he could use his SSJG powers in SSJ, why did he go SSJ3?

Evolve 20 (talk) 17:48, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

GT: Canon Or Not

After months of research and lot of searches through Google about if GT is canon or not I found out the answer. Well, GT is like a filler. As it is not from the official source, it is from the Anime creators themselves and a lot of fans get confused about this because the writer of the script is Akira Toriyama, himself. But actually it is non canon. Yes, Non Canon! Like the Garlic Jr. filler episodes, consider GT is a full filler just taking parts of the official source. Yes, you can also call it a "spinoff" of the official Dragon Ball Series. Hereby another proof that GT is canon is in the movie Dragon Ball Z: Battle Of Gods. Yeah. Akira Toriyama was asked by an interviewer that if GT is canon for the relativity of the plot ( like when Akira mentioned that Super Saiyan God would be more powerful than Super Saiyan 4 but in GT is told that Super Saiyan 4 has the highest power level of all Super Saiyan transformations, but Super Saiyan God is told to be the strongest). Though Akira didn`t answer to the GT question, I think that GT is 90% Full Non-Canon.

Yes, this is my opinion and I think GT is Non Canon and the confusion between the fans that why would GT be non canon if the scriptwriter is Toriyama himself... It wouldn`t be canon if just Akira is the scriptwriter!

Regards,

The Old Me...

BurningCow (talk) 12:46, January 12, 2014 (UTC)MeAndAssesBurningCow (talk) 12:46, January 12, 2014 (UTC)


Nope, it isn't

You simply go by GT's main inconsistency, the appearance of Cooler.  Was Cooler in the manga or even the anime series?  No.  He was only a non-canon movie character.  Since he appears in GT, that puts GT in the same fictional universe as the movies, or at least Cooler's movies.  And neither of them can fit into the timeline of the DBZ manga or the series.  When Movie 5 happened, Goku should've still been on Yardrat recovering and learning the Instant Transmission.  When Movie 6 came along, both Goku and Gohan should've been in their Full Power Super Saiyan transformations during their 10-day wait for the Cell Games.  And Vegeta should've been an Ascended Super Saiyan.  My point is, if GT includes a character that's unarguably non-canon, then it is very likely non-canon itself.


Using that logic, all of Z is non-canon due to Garlic Jr. appearing.

GT was never really canon, but the Cooler argument has always seemed weak to me.

BlueMew1234 (talk) 17:20, May 27, 2014 (UTC)Bluemew1234

Weird Answer Time!

In a strict definition of canon, GT is not part of the normal DB canon because it is not based off of the original manga.


That said, GT is unique in the fact that it has probably the least number of inconsistencies of anything not directly based on the manga. For that reason, we should probably classify GT as a seperate canon instead of just plain non-canon.

Star Wars approches canon in a similar fashion, with the films as one canon, books, games, comics and the like as a secondary canon, and fan works as a seperate canon removed from the other two.



Now, just to argue against what some other people have said, GT cannot be considered canon by virtue of Akira Toriyama having some influence over it.

Akira Toriyama had a huge role in Dragonball Online. If his involvement in a project makes it part of the main canon, this creates problems as Online and GT contain/lack things that make the other impossible, the most glaring problems almost all include Majin Buu (the year Buu creates Mrs. Buu in DBO after the 30th World Martial Arts Tournament is also the same year Majuub throws a match against Mr. Satan at the 31st World Martial Arts Tournament (figure that out!!)).

Expanding this idea out, all of the movies, from Curse of the Blood Rubies to Battle of the Gods, would almost all be canon, despite almost none of them having a place in the timeline, introducing continuity errors (Bulma is younger than Goku in Battle of the Gods) and plot holes, mostly in regards to the whole negative energy build up in GT (either the Shadow Dragons should have shown up years earlier, or there should have been tons more).


GT either needs to occupy a seperate canon from the main continuity, or it has to be considered non-canon.

BlueMew1234 (talk) 18:35, January 16, 2014 (UTC)BlueMew1234

Yes but...

GT is just as canon as the movies. Battle of Gods doesn't make GT noncanon because Battle of Gods can be seen as noncanon. GT is a side story, it happened but it didn't really matter since the story really ended with the buu saga, Gt is like an epilogue if you will. SSJ God is just as canon as SSJ4 which really boils down to whether or not if you want it to be in your own little world. Honestly, people should be questioning the validity of Battle of Gods as canon since the main argument against GT is that it didn't have a manga. Why don't we? Because Battle of Gods was awesome and GT wasn't. Bloody double standards, all of you.

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