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[[Category:{{{1}}}|Something i realized about Super Buu vs Kid Buu]]
Hey guys, i dont mean to start another flame war or anything, but this just hit me. Super Buu is the combined power of fat buu and evil buu. So when fat buu was removed from super buu he lost a portion of his power, resulting in Kid Buu. This must mean that kid buu is weaker than super buu. Even if u say fat buu on his own was weak and didnt provide alot of energy to super buu, nonetheless, losing a portion of power ie losing a portion of power. so i think Super Buu > Kid Buu.
One more thing. I dont think fat contributed little energy to super buu. Fat buu is the one who still holds both South Supreme Kai and Dai Kaioshin's power. So losing fat buu mustve been a huge loss for super buu.
Yeah[]
You've got a point, dude. You are nothing but a pawn in a game you don't even know is being played 10:13, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
But...[]
Didn't Kid Buu spit out Fat Buu when he realized that he was unable to seriously harm Hercule?
Fat Buu is said to have made him weaker; soft. Like kid buu absorbing the grand supreme kai..made him weaker when you'd think absorbing the grand watcher of the universe would make you stronger..idk. Buu also is supposed to have unlimited stamina..just keeps regenerating, and keeps going. Goku did say that at the beginning of his fight with kid buu he could have just beaten him, he didn't so Vegeta could get some. So unless you just utterly vaporize every ounce of him, like Goku ended up doing, he just wears you down.
I think KB still had the Southern Supreme Kai absorbed, because right before he finished his transformation into regular KB, he was shown to be really buff. Idk if that's filler, though.
you dont always become stronger when you absorb someone, kid buu became weaker after he absorbed grandsupreme kai because supreme kai was really weak. when buu became kid buu again, fat buu wasnt absorbed in kid buu but he was still in his body, if fat buu was stil absorbed into kid buu then he wouldnt be kid buu, he would just be fat buu again. so kid buu wasnt stronger than super buu even with gohan, piccolo, goten and trunks absorbed. in all the games featuring both super buu and kid buu, kid buu is stronger than super buu. so you my kind sir are wrong.
You guys have it incorrect. Unlike Cell Kid buu gets weaker as he absorbes fighters. It dilutes his power..When Supreme Kai tells the story Kid buu is the original ultimate evil form. When he absorbes the other Sumpreme kai's he takes on their characteristics in doing so it also dilutes his power..although he is slightly stronger than the previouse form he is still weaker than his orginal.
Kid buu---> Really srong almost unbeatable
(absorbes the kai's)
Fat Buu---> Still stronger than the z fighters but actually alot weaker than kid buu
Skinny Buu---> The diluted pure evil essence of kid buu..Stronger than the Z fighters but can be beaten by ssj3 goku..still alot weaker than kid buu
Absorbes (gohan and piccolo)
Super buu----> alot stronger than skinny buu but still alot weaker than kid buu..
(Vegeto gets absorbed and detaches gohan, piccolo, fatt buu)
Kidd buu-----> reverts back to his ultimate pure undiluted evil form crazy powerful
Kid buu>super buu>fat buu[]
I have many discussions about this topic.Normally fat buu should be as strong as super buu because they have absorbed the same characters.However fat buu is a lot weaker than super buu.I think that when buu absorbed the last kai who was a very good person somehow the goodness captured buu's energy and let him use a small amount of it.When fat buu got absorbed by the slim buu who was purely evil and super buu was created there was still some good inside super buu that was capturing some of his energy.Finally when goku and vegeta rescue fat buu and the z-fighters and buu took his first pure evil form he could use every bid of his power.
Wait, When was it stated that Buu gets weaker as he absorbs ppl[]
I know as he absorbs ppl, those he absorbs influence him, meaning their conscience sort of gets added to his conscience, thus the influence of good ppl help retain the evil in him. However is it ever stated that him absorbing ppl actually makes him physically weaker or less powerful.
The only time he ever got weaker from absorbing someone was when Kid Buu absorbed Daikaioshin (I think that's how you spell it), which turned him into Fat Buu. I'm a little rusty on my Buu Saga knowledge, but I'm pretty sure that the purity in DK's heart somewhat conquered the evil in KB's heart, which turned him from a rampaging psychopath into an innocent, albeit dangerous, man-child. Now, here's my take on it. When Goku and Vegeta were absorbed and traveled through Super Buu's innards, they found people pods of Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten. I'm guessing these pods where being used by SB's body to power him up instead of just straight being digested. However, there was no sign of DK's pod, which could be because his pod would be inside FB, he ended up being digested instead of assimilated, or maybe over time the pod disintegrates. In any case, just because absorbing DK weakened KB doesn't mean that all absorbtions weaken the aborber.
Kid Buu is more evil if that makes sense, his absorbing of the Grand Supreme Kai led to him losing his insane murderous edge. I'd say the buu that absorbed Vegito temporarily was the strongest.
Super Buu is the strongest FACT[]
Let's get a few things cleared up first
When Kaioshin stated that the absorptions made buu weaker, that was a dubbing error, it does not say that in the original manga *Edit. Think about it, why would he bother absorbing the kais if they were going to make him weaker when he was already stronger than them? Why would he absorb gotenks in order to fight Gohan if abosrbing makes him weaker? It's a completely illogical and frankly incredibly moronic argument. Not to mention the fact that he was getting he ass kicked by Gohan, then he absorbed Gotenks, and the roles were switched.
- Edit: http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/57748/4.jpg | Actually, from this manga page we do see it isn't only in the dub that it is stated "Buu lost power and became gentler" I23sonny (talk) 03:19, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
But lets say you're completely arrogant in your fucking retarded belief that kid buu is stronger despite the logical argument above. Well lets go through a few more things. After goku fights fat buu for the first time (btw i am using the manga for reference here, not the anime) he says to piccolo that he wasnt sure he could beat him. Yet when kid buu appeared goku was certain he could have beaten him if he had gone all out at SS3. And goku is not one to underestimate his opponents. The guy surrendered against cell. So goku practically tells us that Kid buu is even weaker than Fat buu. Now i realise this argument has some flaws. So i'll move on to another. When fat buu gets angry and creates evil buu the 2 of them fight shortly afterwards. Good buu vs evil buu, evil buu completely annihilates him. Good buu cant land a single hit(bare in mind that good buu and fat buu are not the same, fat buu is much stronger than good buu) but when kid buu spits fat buu out and the 2 of them fight, good buu fares much better, he lands a few good hits, he still loses yes but he puts up a much better fight. So it stands to reason, that Evil buu is stronger than kid buu and therefore super buu is MUCH stronger than kid buu. Still not convinced? well you're an idiot but im not done yet. Remember when goku and vegeta are inside Super buu after they freed gohan and the others? Vegeta wants to leave and fight buu. At this point buu was back to his original super buu form. But goku stops him, claiming that they would still be no match for buu if they went out then. But then when kid buu appears goku is confident they can beat him. Again, goku is not one for overconfidence, he obviously knew that kid buu was much weaker. Sorry for insulting those of you who honestly think kid buu is stronger, but face facts people.
Super Buu > Kid Buu in Power, but Kid Buu is More Dangerous[]
Between Kid and Super Buu, Super Buu is the stronger of the two. That said, because of how completely reckless and insane he acts, Kid Buu is supposed to be the more dangerous one.
BlueMew1234 (talk) 16:36, March 13, 2014 (UTC)BlueMew1234
Super Buu is stronger but Kid Buu is more wild. Simple as that.Sal McClinton (talk) 19:07, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
Super Buu loses Fat Buu, Increases power going to Kid Buu[]
http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/57748/4.jpg
You see towards the end that Kibito Kai explains when Buu originally absorbed Dai Kaioushin, he turned into Fat Buu and he lost power. With Fat Buu removed from the picture, any trace of Dai Kaioushin is gone (which is why Kibito Kai mentions it in the first place), and they see his power increase during transformation. Once the transformation is complete, his power stabilizes, leading Goku and Vegeta to underestimate him. Vegeta even taunts him saying he can't destroy the planet without going through them first. Bam, Kid Buu instantly proves them wrong. Seen in http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/57748/7.jpg and http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/57748/8.jpg. Vegeta yells "Huh!?" and Goku follows with "I don't believe it!" in surprise.
It's common for new forms and fighters to be underestimated. They aren't flawless. I23sonny (talk) 04:01, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Buu[]
In the English dub of the anime, the Old Kai says "They weakened him." It was a dubbing error. They gave him a conscience and made him easy to manipulate. Bibidi manipulated him with just the promise of cake. Hercule really showed that Buu could be swayed, but the "Evils of Men" caused him to go crazy. Although he had swore not to kill anymore, he still wanted to kill those guys. So, Kid Buu's conscience was expelled. The good of Kai's and the evil of Buu, a Ying and Yang if you will. Competing for Buu's body. Now, Fat Buu is gone at this point. We had Mr. Buu and Evil Buu. When the evil wins and consumes the good they rejoin, and the Fat Buu is back, but without the Kai's innocence. Kid Buu is in control now. So Super Buu is essentially more destructive than Fat Buu. And Both are stronger than Evil Buu, Kid Buu, and Mr. Buu. Now, even though Mr. Buu is the 2 Supreme Kai's abosrobed and Evil Buu is the esscence of Kid Buu, they are both weaker than Kid Buu since they are nether one fully Buu, but 2 halves of Buu. So Super Buu and Fat Buu are stronger Buff Buu(South Supreme Kai) who is stronger than Kid Buu, who is stronger than Mr. Buu and Evil Buu. Now, Buuiccolo, Buutenks, and Buuhan are all stronger than any of the other forms. However, when Goku is fighting Buu he states that he gets stronger with every hit. So the Kid Buu that fights Goku is much stronger than the Kid Buu who fought and absorbed the Kai's. Buuiccolo is the hardest to place since he didn't have a very threatening roll. SSJ3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan were confident. Also, they said when he reverted back to Buff Buu, that his power was rising. So, it could be implied that Buff Buu was also stronger than Super Buu in the Buu Saga, but not when he was first created. At best it would be Buff Buu, Super Buu, Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Pre Buff Buu, Pre Kid Buu, Evil Buu, Mr. Buu. The first 4 along with Buuiccolo would all be fairly close in power, as the second 4 would be the weaker Buu's. Buuhan and Buutenks as I said are unmatched by any form of Buu.Ultimatessj1 (talk) 23:15, March 29, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1
When Kid Buu absorbed the South Supreme Kai it's obvious he became stronger, as he became Buff Buu. When Super buu was changing, after everyone was detached from him, his power started rising, because he was becoming Buff Buu again before changing back to his original Kid Buu form and his power lowers. I believe Buff Buu, possibly, got stronger from absorbing the Dai Kaioshin, but his innocent childlike personality and fat physique, highly, restricted the resulting Fat Buu's power, but I have nothing to support this, and it's besides the point. Goku (and some back up from Vegeta) beat Kid Buu, and that was, a lot of times, with him as just ssj or even base. The only thing Kid Buu had going for him was his stamina and regeneration. If not for that, base Goku could've beat Kid Buu, no problem. Kid Buu's attacks weren't having too much effect, really. Base Goku takes many direct hits while gathering energy for his Spirit Bomb, and it didn't affect him. Also, as someone pointed out already, Goku and, even Vegeta, destroys Kid Buu many times but it took ssj 3 Gotenks to fight Super Buu. Super Buu was becoming just too fast and doing too much damage to ssj gotenks, to the point Piccolo lost hope and, in desperation, destroyed the hyperbolic time chamber door, locking them in their for eternity, until Super Buu ripped a hole in the dimension to the outside because he couldn't stand the thought of not having his candy, lol
Super Boo > Kid Boo > Evil Boo > Fat Boo
Kid Boo absorbed all of the kaioshins and slowly became stronger, but Dai Kaioshin intentionally was absorbed by Kid Boo to make him into the weaker, Fat Boo. Evil Boo was the Evil Power in Fat Boo, and was more powerful than him in their fight. Super Boo was by FAR more powerful than Kid Boo by maybe 15x, which is apparent because he faught on the same level as very powerful beings, and Kid Boo was less powerful than Son Goku as a Super Saiyan Three, who definitely couldn't even hold his own against Super Boo.
Kid Buu is HORRIBLY weaker than Super Buu.
First...
The Anime itself confirms that Buuhan>Buutenks>Buucollo> Super Buu> Kid Buu> Evil Buu> Fat Buu.(The first three are more than obvious)
-Anyway, Goku SSJ3 says he could beat Kid Buu case was at its maximum power (100% SSJ3 Goku is 480 billion, a little more than Kid Buu)
So Goku SSJ3 tried to fight Buutenks, which is obviously much stronger and was thrown aside as he could not keep for more than a few minutes, and Buutenks was suppressing his power..
We know that Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ3 Goku, because of the fusion, which sum the power of the fusee's, and multiplies them (do not know the exact number, but people estimated to 10x, 20x, or even (overly) 100x).
So we know that Goku SSJ3 is quite overcome by Gotenks and Super Buu SSJ3.
Goku SSJ3 managed to have a great fight with Kid Buu and Goku SSJ3 own stating that could defeat Kid Buu in his 100%.
This implies that ...
Kid Buu is TERRIBLY weaker than Super Buu, and almost as esgamar a fly for him. If Super Buu could easily beat Goku SSJ3, and Gotenks SSJ3 also while Goku SSJ3 states that His> Kid Buu, Super Buu is obvious that >>> (horribly) >>>> Kid Buu.
Kid Buu is trampled, dead, absorbed, and ready.
We also know that Super Buu has practically the same power as Gotenks SSJ3 have in your 100%, therefore, if Goku SSJ3 fight against Super Buu Gotenks without absorved, the result would be the same Goku SSJ3 would lose.