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I was thinking about how the majority of the characters and species in the DBZ universe have transformations. However, the humans never had any kind of noticeable "giant leap" that made them as strong as a Super Saiyan. When the Elder Kai unlocks Gohan's Mystic power, I was wondering if that could almost be considered the Super Human level since he is in fact half Saiyan and half Human. Gohan is definitely the strongest hybrid and strongest human at that if you lean in that direction and dont concentrate on the Saiyan aspect of it.

So was Gohan's hidden power his super human form? If so, could this super human form be more powerful than SS1,2 & 3?

Suppose Goku or Vegeta met with the Elder Kai before they first transformed into Super Saiyans. Would Elder Kai simply have unlocked their Super Saiyan abilities?

-Just a thought

SSCASS 21:05, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Uub is probably about as strong as a Super Saiyan 3, and he is 100% human.
I'm not gonna comment on whether Ultimate Gohan is as strong as a Super Saiyan 3, lol, too much controversy.
If Elder Kai's abilities make a fighter as strong as they can possibly ever become, then Goku and Vegeta would both have been given the power of at least a Super Saiyan 4 (or 3 if you only like the manga) , but not necessary the power to transform into one. -- Kamehameha.10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 13:33, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ultimate Gohan form is obviously more powerful than a Super Saiyan 1 and 2 form for this is Gohan's final form.He never made it to super saiyan 3 and 4.So his Ultimate for is probably somewhere between super saiyan 2 and 3.Not quite as powerful as a super saiyan 3 Goku or Gotenks but more powerful than Majin Vegita and powerful enough to hold his own against Buu,in I believe his Super Form.

But I don't think the power unlocked by Elder Kai is his "human" power.For he is a human/saiyan hybrid,and the human part of him is indistinguishable from the saiyan part him;i.e. he is neither a human nor a saiyan but a hybrid,so it is pointless to try and differentiate between the saiyan and human characteristics of Gohan.This power that was unlocked is the hidden power that Gohan has always held back;because he is not a full blooded saiyan it is more difficult for him to go into fuller saiyan berserker mode that Vegita,Nappa,Broly,Bardock,and even Goku have no problem accessing.Think back to the Raditz saga when he briefly went berserker and was able to injure Raditz in an attack before quickly reverting to his normal defenseless toddler state.Think back to when Piccolo in his enhanced form after merging with Nail was being badly beaten by Frieza in his 3rd form and Gohan was able to stall Frieza long enough for Vegita to enhance his strength through being gravely injured by Krillin and healed by Dende.And finally when he able to finally go Super Saiyan 2 after Cell's Juniors quickly and brutally dispatched all of the Z Fighters.

Perhaps it is because of his hybrid status it is easier for Gohan to reach Super Saiyan form than it is for full blooded saiyans,as is the case with Goten and Trunks,for Vegita and Goku both discussed this possibility when they witnessed Goten and Trunks reach super saiyan form merely for play.But because of his human heritage there is an added sense of compassion and desire for peace that all full blooded saiyans lack,with the exception of Goku,(although there is nothing more he enjoys than a good fight).And so he has less of a drive to be the "strongest" than Vegita and Goku.And ditto for Trunks and Goten.Perhaps it is because of this drive that only Goku and Vegita progressed beyond Super Saiyan 3 form.

I am new to DBZ. Can anyone explain to me power levels and why goku is compared to superman?


If you follow the manga Gohan is the strongest fighter out of all the Z-Fighters when Kid Buu is finally defeated. Kid Buu is one of Buus weaker formers stronger then Fat Buu but weaker then Super Buu. What made him so dangerous is how insane he was and how fast he could recouperate. This makes Gohan stronger then Super Saiyan 3 Goku and just because Gohan had all of his hidden power unlocked doesn't mean he couldn't get stronger. It meant that for the first time ever all of his power was accessable to him. If he continued to train he would have gone far stronger. At the end of DBZ Goku is the strongest once again due to Gohan not training.

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