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[[Category:{{{1}}}|Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta vs. DBZ]]
Since there have been a lot of similar posts, here's my question. Can SSJ4 Gogeta beat the rest of the DBZ universe (not counting what-if characters like SSJ4 Vegito, etc.) at the same time?
Doubt it[]
He can only stay in that form in 10 minutes. Unless he said "You know what, i'm done joking around" and actually focused on trying to beat everyone (BTW, are we talking all of the Villains from DBZ, or just everyone in general?) Either way, i don't see it happening-MKCSTEALTH 05:05, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
I mean everyone in general. And if he tried. Shakuran13 (talk) 05:16, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Alright, what if it was SSJ4 Vegito?[]
super 17 by himself wins this. ssj4 gogeta has no way of beating him to death if he doesnt know about the energy thing. then you have rage shenron. haze shenron, eis shenron, buuhan with his candy/absorbing. garlic with his immortality. the dragonballs can just be wished to take ssj4 gogeta's power down to zero. thats the end of him.
But SSJ4 Gogeta does know doesn't he? He's half Goku. Rage, Haze, and Eis aren't anything SSJ4 Gogeta hasn't encountered against Omega Shenron. Buuhan already tried the candy/absorbing thing on SSJ Vegito and it didn't work, and SSJ4 Gogeta is much stronger. Garlic was already taken care of once, he can be dealt with again. The dragonball method is valid, but if it hasn't been tried before, how do you know it'll work? And the DBZ characters are kinda stupid, they probably wouldn't think of it. Shakuran13 (talk) 23:31, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
They don't even need the Dragon Balls. Buuhan will turn him into a cookie next time and have several people eat him piece by piece. There, argument over. --DARK 23:45, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
Or Gogeta/Vegito does the same thing as with the coffee candy and just starts fighting people as a cookie Shakuran13 (talk) 23:56, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
- And how does that work? He tries to punch someone and his frail cookie arm breaks to pieces. --DARK 11:01, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
- Because he's Vegito. Think about it. With the coffee candy, when he fought Buu, he was stronger than a normal coffee candy (unless you think it's normal for a piece of candy to stay in one piece if it shoots at a guy who can handle bullets at super speed). His cookie arm wouldn't be frail at all, because, like with the coffee candy, he's still have all of his power. Anyways, SSJ4 Vegito is most likely much faster than SSJ1 Vegito was, plus he's had all the additional training of Goku and Vegeta after DBZ, so he could probably just dodge the Chocolate Beam easily. Shakuran13 (talk) 21:18, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
Gogeta transports his family,friends and earthlings to namek,goes back to earth,from space,charges big bang Kamehameha x100,destroys earth and defeats everyone. Its highly unlikley though.
or he can take all the namekians to earth and lead the villians to namek because i dont think he would destroy earth then human would have to rebuild everything and that would be a hassle and i think humans can take some green people walking around i mean thye havge talking animals for goodness sake!
realistically shenron or janemba should be able to seal gogeta in another dimension. or have garlic summon dead zone, then have buuhan absorb guldo then have buuhan use time freeze and throw him into another dimension. meanwhile have Eis use his ability on broly, then since broly supposedly rises in power constantly, will continue to do so in the ice, then when gogeta comes back, he faces a pissed off broly stronger than he is.
- True, but if SSJ4 Goku could defy Shenron by randomly growing to an adult, then shouldn't SSJ4 Gogeta be able to? Even if Janemba tried sealing Gogeta in another dimension, it might not work for the simple fact that Gogeta has much faster reflexes. The thing about Broly's power constantly rising is not actually true. The line where that comes from is where he says "getting stronger, much stronger". Nowhere does it even imply that this holds true all the time. There was just one instance where he grew in strength and people twisted it to make him seem more unstoppable. Shakuran13 (talk) 22:47, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
alternately, have shenron wish EVERYONE immortal, then make a potara fusion of gohan and uub, and a potara fusion of goten and trunks fight. have omega and 17 distract gogeta while the fusions train in the time chamber.
- But would they even be able to make that wish? Gogeta could just kill Shenron before that happened. Gohan and Uub or Goten and Trunks' fusion most likely would still not be as strong as SSJ4 Gogeta, considering how much more powerful Goku was than any of those fusees just as himself. Omega Shenron was already proven to be nothing against Gogeta, so, Gogeta couldn't be distracted like that. Shakuran13 (talk) 22:47, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
- NO WAY