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I just had this idea because I always wondered: Who would be and who was the best hero in Dragon Ball? So I had an idea: why not do it in a comical fashion, respectfully of course, while making sense and just having fun with it! I hope this can continue to grow and as I said, respecting you're fellow contributor's opinion, have fun! (I have begun with Goku, place whoever you want and add reasons, pictures and quotes like I will) SSJ4Ichigo 21:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: Only canonical material; manga, anime, movies are fine. No jokes and internet comedies (abridged, etc.) Only the official material counts. - PrinceZarbon talk contrib 06:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Contents 1 Reasons why Goku is better 2 Reasons why Vegeta is better 3 Reasons why Piccolo is better 4 Reasons why Gohan is better 5 Reasons why Krillin is better 6 Reasons why Bardock is better 7 Reasons why Mr. Satan is better 8 Reasons why Master Roshi is better 9 Reasons why Future Trunks is better 10 Reasons why Future Gohan is better 11 Reasons why Trunks is better 12 Reasons why Goten is better 13 Reasons why Android 18 is better 14 Reasons why Tien is better 15 Reasons why Yamcha is better 16 Reasons why Chiaotzu is better 17 Reasons why Nail is better 18 Reasons why Uub is better 19 Reasons why Pan is better

[edit] Reasons why Goku is better

"I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth. Ally to good! Nightmare to you! -Goku facing Frieza as an awakened Super Saiyan"

1. He mastered the Kaio-Ken technique.
2. Can utilize the Spirit Bomb.
3. He mastered the Master Roshi Turtle school of combat.
4. He can perform the instant transmission, taught to him by the Yardrats.
5. How many times has he saved the world again? He gave his life twice to save the world.
6. Was the first to transform into a Super Saiyan in over one thousand years.
7. Was considered a low level Saiyan warrior at birth, but became the most powerful pure-blooded Saiyan in history. Even as a child he has always had many years worth of experience when it came to fighting and as an adult he had instincts and strategy that surpassed some of the greatest warriors.
8. Goku executed hundreds of Red Ribbon Army soldiers, Tambourine, King Piccolo, Yakon, and was responsible for the final defeat of Majin Buu. In the movies, he also kills Nicky and Ginger (Garlic Jr's. henchmen), Dr. Wheelo and his Bio Warriors (Misokatsun, Enifurya, and Kishime), Turles and all of his men (Amond, Cacao, Daiz, Rezun, Rakasei), Lord Slug and Angira and Medamatcha (Slug's henchmen), Cooler, Super Android 13, helped finish off Broly, fused with Vegeta to kill Janemba, and killed Hirudegarn.
9. He always gets stronger due to being beaten (Saiyan gene).
10. Puts up with Chi-Chi (seems impossible).
11. He reached every canon level of Super Saiyan, as well as False Super Saiyan.
12. The only thing that ever killed him for good was a heart virus (alternate timeline).
13. Thinks only of others, never himself. Goku's good nature is contagious, as he reforms hoodlums like Konkichi just by being friends with them.
14. Always shows mercy to even his greatest enemies.
15. Even in the hardest of battles, Goku can crack a smile. When he gets horribly beat down, he just gets right back up and laughs.
16. He has the appetite of like 50 blue whales!
17. He performed the Kamehameha wave in one try when he was only 12, something that took Master Roshi "50 years". He also completed Korin's training regiment in 3 days when it took Master Roshi 3 years.
18. He has been champion of both the World Martial Arts Tournament and the Other World Tournament.
19. He convinced many of his enemies to become his allies. Some of the most brutal warriors were reformed as a result of his guidance and friendship. (Examples: Piccolo, Tien, Chiaotzu, Yamcha, and Vegeta)
20. He's the strongest fighter in the universe at the end of DBGT.
21. After becoming SS4, his raw power is able to temporarily undo a wish on the Dragon Balls (Pilaf's wish).
22. His heart is totally pure, shown by his immunity to attacks like the Devilmite Beam.

[edit] Reasons why Vegeta is better

"The sleeper has awakened. I am the prince of all Saiyans once again!"

1. He was one of the most enduring characters--he could take punishment and keep going like a badass.
2. He executed the most number of villains in the entire series, and ruthlessly. (This includes: Saibamen, Nappa, Cui, Dodoria, Appule, Zarbon, Guldo, Recoome, Burter, Jeice, Android 19 and Pui Pui in the series; also executed Android 15 and Cooler in the movies.)
3. He's the best anti-hero in the history of anti-heroes.
4. He is the prince of all Saiyans.
5. He was the second Super Saiyan.
6. He got to nail Bulma (very lucky bastard).
7. His daughter Bulla is hot like her mom.
8. He has the most serious and determined personality out of all the Saiyan characters. His desire to surpass his opponents and always maintain superiority makes his thirst for battle greater and his connection to Saiyan royalty more firm. He has an indomitable pride, even when faced with certain death.
9. He is connected to the richest family in the world through his wife, Bulma!
10. His muscular build looks damn good in spandex.
11. He blew himself up against Buu in order to save the world and his family and friends.
12. He sold his soul to Babidi to gain the Majin strength to beat Goku, and to regain the evil edge needed to provoke Goku into fighting him.
13. He always gets stronger due to being beaten (Saiyan gene)
14. He acknowledged with honor and respect that his life-long rival, Goku, is stronger than him (Took him long enough, though).
15. Gohan wouldn't have been able to finish Cell without his help since he blasted Cell, distracting him, and allowing Gohan to eliminate him with his Kamehameha wave.
16. Goku wouldn't have been able to finish Buu without his help.
17. He has a mind for strategic thinking that puts Goku to shame most of the time. His Saiyan pride helps him overcome obstacles, such as becoming a Super Saiyan.
18. He had the best lines, quips, quotations, remarks, etc. He said the most popular line in DBZ history.
19. He has been Goku's deadliest rival since the day they met; and his best sparring partner.
20. He skipped the SS3 form and went directly to SS4 (with a little help from Bulma!)
21. He has some of the most powerful and devastating energy attacks in the series (Galick Gun, Big Bang Attack, Final Flash, and Final Shine)

[edit] Reasons why Piccolo is better

"I am the Namek that has long since forgotten his name..."

1. He's badass. His attitude is very serious.
2. He sacrificed himself THREE times. First for Gohan, who was the son of his ex arch rival, Goku. Then, the time he took Frieza's Death Beam to save Goku. He even sacrificed himself for the planet Earth, which he decided to perish with in order to avoid Dragon Ball usage in the future.
3. He receives the most emotionally moving and psychologically enigmatic death scenes in both Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT. First, when he sacrifices himself to save Gohan against Nappa. And second, when he dies with Planet Earth, the planet he had grown to love, after explaining the necessity of his death to a highly sentimental Gohan.
4. He reformed from a villain to a hero and became one of the strongest Z-Fighters. He also understands the psychological differences of being both.
5. He trained Gohan to become a powerful warrior and continued to remain his closest teacher, ally, and master in the art of combat. He also trained Goten and Trunks in the time of peril.
6. He's the most important non-Saiyan main character of alien descent in the entire series.
7. He's the smartest, most meditative, and probably bravest and most sincere character.
8. He fuses with Nail to become substantially stronger. He also fuses with Kami to increase his strength to become a Super Namek, which is stronger than a basic Super Saiyan!
9. He executes Raditz, Salza, Neiz, Doore, Sansho, and Wings. He also halves Babidi.
10. He was the one most of the Z-Fighters looked up to in Goku's absence as he most acted as a leader.
11. Dragon Ball manga creator Akira Toriyama has said oftentimes that Piccolo is his favorite character.
12. He doesn't need to turn into a Super Saiyan to keep up with his opponents. He has the might of the entire Namekian race, and then some. He's a primary force and maintains his might even though he's not a Saiyan like some of the other main characters.
13. He has the best armor/cloak/cape/weighted clothing/turban/sexy outfit combo ever!
14. He can hear extremely far distances, putting his ears to good use.
15. When he removes his armor, he becomes much faster!
16. He can perform a split technique, becoming deadlier! He trains with his separate components when he performs this split.(similar to Tien's)
17. He has the ability to regenerate his limbs, even when they are sliced off (against Raditz, against Cell, etc.)
18. He's the spawn of Demon King Piccolo! And his most powerful offspring!
19. He wasn't affected by the Black Water Mist and tricked Garlic Jr., making him think he was.

[edit] Reasons why Gohan is better

"I'm the son of Goku... the warrior!" — Gohan when fighting Recoome.

1. He has hidden powers, which are released TWICE (first by Guru, then by Elder Kai) As a result, he becomes stronger than a Super Saiyan 3 (implied in Viz Media manga) after being trained by the Elder Kai.
2. He pulls out the Z Sword!
3. He was the first Super Saiyan to ascend to level 2. He was also the youngest Super Saiyan ever, until Goten and Trunks were born.
4. He "killed" his first villain when he was just a baby. He toyed with Cell in his fight with him. He killed Cell, when nobody else was capable, not even Goku. (He also decimated the Cell Juniors, Bido, Bujin, Bojack, Spice, Vinegar, Mustard, and Salt; he also defeated Garlic Junior TWICE.)
5. He marries Videl...... lucky bastard.
6. In high school, he acts as a Super Hero known as Golden Fighter and Great Saiyaman!
7. Unlike his father, he is very intelligent and reads many books; he knows a lot more about subjects and is taught in many areas besides only knowing about basic combat, etc.
8. He withstood the Special Beam Cannon twice in his lifetime (this was a move that killed his father and his uncle). He batted away Cell's attempt like it was nothing and managed to block Super Buu's version.

[edit] Reasons why Krillin is better

"I Wax" — Krillin after numerous fighters slip off his head in Bojack Unbound

1. He married Android 18.
2. He dated Maron.
3. He can use the Destructo Disc.
4. He has no nose, which came in handy against Bacterian.
5. He is Goku's best friend and training partner, and later, Gohan's best friend as well.
6. He has been killed by Tambourine, Frieza, Buu, and Super 17.
7. He is the most powerful full-human (besides Uub) in the series.
8. He died protecting Android 18 and Marron twice.
9. He is probably one of the bravest character in the series as shown in his willingness to fight Vegeta, the Ginyu Force, Freeza, Cell, Super Buu, and Kid Buu despite being outclassed. He cuts off Frieza's tail then moons him, instigating him further even after getting impaled on one of his horns.
10. He is pure-hearted enough to wield the spirit bomb.

[edit] Reasons why Bardock is better

"Frieza's taken our loyalty and paid us back in our own blood." — Bardock before tying a blood-stained bandanna to his head.

1. He fought until the very end of his life defending the Saiyan race. He knew Frieza was exponentially stronger than him; yet he decided to face him anyway.
2. He led an elite Saiyan force which included Tora, Shugesh, Fasha, and Borgos.
3. He can transform into a Giant Great Ape (Oozaru).
4. He single-handedly takes down Dodoria's most elite fighters!
5. He was the most powerful Saiyan at the time before planet Vegeta was destroyed.
6. He is Goku's father. Without him, Goku would've never been around.
7. He has the power to see into the future. He actually sees Goku facing Frieza and Vegeta, along with many other opponents.
8. He challenged hundreds if not thousands of Frieza's soldiers all at once and all alone, and with serious injuries.

[edit] Reasons why Mr. Satan is better

"I'm The World Martial Arts Champion!" — Mr. Satan's signature phrase

1. He was the one that threw Android 16's head into the battle between Cell and Gohan, and when Cell stomped on it, Gohan went berserk and progressed to SSJ2 and wiped out the Cell Juniors. So, therefore, Mr. Satan is pretty heavily responsible for the defeat of Cell.
2. He won the martial arts tournament many times over! He even suggested a battle royale take place!
3. He convinced Majin Buu not to kill anymore!
4. He took down the 2 goons, Van Zant and Smitty, who were responsible for shooting Buu's puppy, Bee.
5. Piccolo even stated that although he didn't personally like Mr. Satan, he felt that Mr. Satan had undergone many changes and has the makings of a true hero. Goku even said Mr. Satan is a true champion, that he did what no powerful warrior could do.
6. He took on Kid Buu, even though he dodged Kid Buu's kicks and punches with sheer luck! He took Vegeta to safety so that Goku could use the Spirit Bomb. Also, he convinced the people of Earth to lend their energy to the Spirit Bomb, saving the world by lending his voice. He serves an important role as a figurehead and a symbol. (EX: Vegeta yelling at people to give up their energy for Goku's Genki-Dama vs. Kid Boo and failing, whereas Mr. Satan stepped in, asked and everybody gladly obliged.)
7. He gives the people courage and hope; something to believe in even when the chips are down and there's no one left to turn to. He's often shown moments where he'll step in to encourage or defend the weak and innocent without (outwardly) showing even a little ego. One example would be during the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament when Mooki fell out of the ring, dejected and on the verge of tears, Mr. Satan stepped in and gave him words of encouragement, even going as far as to hoist the child up on to his shoulder so the crowd would cheer for him.
8. He is one of the only people who never died during the series (although he died by the end of GT)!
9. It is implied that although he does not hold water next to any of the Z-Fighters, that he is indeed a fairly talented martial artist. He can break 14 roofing tiles in a single karate chop!

[edit] Reasons why Master Roshi is better

1. He was Goku's first teacher and taught him how to be a fighter, along with honing his moves and skills. Master Roshi taught him to have the spirit and courage of a fighter. If it wasn't for Roshi, Goku likely wouldn't have progressed as a warrior.
2. He is the inventor of the Kamehameha wave. One of the strongest moves in the series, and used by many characters.
3. During 21st World Martial Arts Tournament, in max power form, he destroyed the Moon! He's also the winner of the 21st world martial arts tournament. He also put up a great fight against Tien in the 22nd world tournament
4. He defeated Goku in the finals of 21st Martial Arts Tournament.
5. He goes undercover as Jackie Chun in order to conceal his identity from his own pupils in the 21st Martial Arts Tournament!
6. He is famous and a very powerful warrior (and can pump up his body).
7. He sacrificed himself to capture King Piccolo. (unfortunately in vain)
8. He can HYPNOTIZE people! (as witness when he performed this maneuver against Man-Wolf)
9. He whipped Krillin into good enough shape to overcome the bullies who used to pick on him.
10. He's one of the funniest characters.
11. He trained Krillin, Goku, Grandpa Gohan, Ox King and Yamcha.
12. He put out the fires of fire mountain.
13. He beat up several members of the Red Ribbon Army, including Captain Dark.
14. He climbed Korin tower and defeated Korin.

[edit] Reasons why Future Trunks is better

"You're about to find out what it's like to fight a real Super Saiyan... and I'm not talking about Goku." — Trunks confronting Frieza.

1. He killed Frieza and his father, King Cold. He executed Android 17, 18, and Cell in the future timeline. He also kills Android 14 and Kogu.
2. He uses a bad ass sword.
3. Grew up in the worst timeline imaginable.
4. Has a deep respect for his father (Vegeta).
5. Despite living in nothing but sorrow, he still looks on the brighter side of things.
6. He is trained by Future Gohan... the biggest bad ass in DBZ history.
7. He is the 2nd Super Saiyan in the present timeline. He can become an Ultra Super Saiyan (guess he would do well in a muscle size competition).
8. He is the most level-headed Saiyan.
9. He was the last warrior in his timeline and he saved it!
10. He is the son of the Prince of all Saiyans!
11. He has a time machine.

[edit] Reasons why Future Gohan is better

"Even if you manage to kill this body, someone even stronger would surface and take my place! Not one death will go unaccounted for! Not one!" — Future Gohan to the androids.

1. In the alternate timeline, he survived the horrible battle with the androids, and then took it upon himself to challenge them.
2. Future Gohan loses his arm saving Trunks' life and despite this handicap is still able to hold his own against BOTH androids. He is executed after his attempt of heroism and his valiant struggle.
3. He trained Future Trunks.

[edit] Reasons why Trunks is better

1. He is able to turn into a Super Saiyan at age 8.
2. He can perform the Fusion Dance with Goten to create Gotenks.
3. He is the President of Capsule Corp., one of the biggest and richest corporations in the world. He is very well educated and is very interested in mechanics, as well as numerous other scientific and technological advancements.
4. He is the son of Vegeta and was trained by him.
5. He was the only character who was able to expel Baby out of his body by himself. (although Baby still took control of him since he had laid an egg within his organism the first time he had infiltrated Trunks)

[edit] Reasons why Goten is better

1. He is a lot like his father Goku in terms of personality as a child.
2. He is able to turn into a Super Saiyan at age 7.
3. He can perform the Fusion Dance with Trunks to create Gotenks.
4. He helped kill Broly and Bio-Broly and he easily beats up Baby when he first arrives on Earth.

[edit] Reasons why Android 18 is better

1. She is one of the most powerful female characters in the Dragon Ball universe.
2. She extorted money from Hercule. She was the real winner of the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament.
3. In the future, she actually succeeded in killing the Z Fighters (including Gohan and Vegeta!) and reducing the earth to ruins.
4. She was brave enough to rebel against Doctor Gero and betray him.
5. She has a wicked sense of humor (along with Android 17). She remains calm and collected in almost any situation.
6. She made a wreck of Vegeta, the prince of all Saiyans. Even when beating the hell out of Vegeta, she doesn't lose her composure.
7. She has great fashion sense, unlike her husband, Krillin.
8. None of the Z fighters ever actually beat her in battle in the real time line.
9. She wasn't scared to detonate her self-destructing bomb in order to stop Semi-Perfect Cell's evil plans.
10. She risked her life protecting her daughter Marron from Android 17's energy wave.
11. Without her help, Goku may not have been able to destroy Super 17.
12. She saved Hercule from Bio-Broly despite he didn't pay her the 20 million zeni he owed her.
13. She can live forever and she never tires, due to her eternal energy generator. (along with Android 17)
14. She has a strange and twisted sense of honor, even as her future, homicidal self (allowing the shop keeper who gave her free clothes live.)

[edit] Reasons why Tien is better

1. During the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament, he was the closest to Goku's power level. He barely managed to win the tournament.
2. He was trained by Master Shen, Master Roshi's greatest rival.
3. He turned from an evil character to hero in just a few days (thanks to Master Roshi).
4. He beat Cyborg Mercenary Tao, the improved version of his old teacher, with ease.
5. He is a human that has THREE eyes.
6. He can use Dodon Ray and Tri-Beam Cannon, energy waves that are deadlier than the Kamehameha wave (as stated by Master Roshi). He also uses the Solar Flare!
7. He is one of the most powerful humans on the planet.
8. He lost his arm against Nappa, and still continued to fight until his last breath.
9. He defeated Jeice and Burter simultaneously!
10. He distracted Cell for a while in order to give the Androids time to escape.
11. He also stood up to Buu when there was absolutely nobody left on Earth aside from Hercule and Dende.
12. He rejected a hot babe like Launch in order to concentrate on his training.

[edit] Reasons why Yamcha is better

1. He got to DATE Bulma!
2. He is considered to be a ladies man!
3. He plays pro baseball and finds it too easy!
4. He battled a Saibaman until it self-destructed and killed him!
5. He defeated Recoome!
6. He has a small sidekick named Puar, who can shapeshift!
7. He fought Tien and got his leg broken! He decided to forgive Tien and they became friends.
8. He defeated the Invisible Man!
9. He had a very grueling battle against the Mummy Man, and didn't give up out of honor and pride!
10. He is likely the most handsome and cares most about his appearance among the Z Fighters.
11. He tricked Chi-Chi into thinking that he loved her.
12. He has one of the best finishing moves, the Wolf Fang Fist!

[edit] Reasons why Chiaotzu is better

1. He sacrificed himself against Nappa after a grueling battle!
2. He was Master Shen's pupil and learned the Crane Hermit style of combat alongside Tien.
3. He was executed during the King Piccolo saga in an all-out battle against King Piccolo to secure the wish; it took lots of courage to stand up against King Piccolo.
4. He has telekinetic abilites, which he used during the Martial arts tournament to freeze Goku in Tien's fight.
5. He was flying before Goku, Krillin, etc. even knew how to fly and he outmaneuvered Krillin in combat.
6. He defeated Guldo!
7. He was once Emperor Chiaotzu of a dynasty and Tien was his bodyguard! (why they are so attached)
8. He has a distinct and intriguing design; a vampiric white little doll with a small Chinese-style outfit and cap.
9. He used his telepathic powers to rig the World Martial Arts Tournament so that none of the heroes would have to fight each other in the preliminary rounds and so that he would get to fight last.
10. Despite Chiaotzu's small stature, he is a powerful warrior.

[edit] Reasons why Nail is better

1. He held off Frieza valiantly so Gohan and Krillin could wish Piccolo back. He still keeps his sense of humor even after a brutal beating from Frieza.
2. He fused with Piccolo which made Piccolo strong enough to face Frieza.
3. He gets his arm ripped off, grows it back, and continues to fight bravely.
4. He is Guru's #1 bodyguard.
5. He is one of the strongest Namekians in the series run and by far the most powerful Namekian who resides on planet Namek.

[edit] Reasons why Uub is better

1. He is the reincarnation of the powerful Kid Buu.
2. He is the strongest human to ever live and the strongest non-Saiyan Z-fighter in the series.
3. His family is very poor and he wanted to help them by winning the Martial Arts Tournament.
4. He was trained by Goku.
5. He saved Pan from Baby Gohan and he saved Gohan from General Rilldo.
6. He fuses with Majin Buu to create Majuub.

[edit] Reasons why Pan is better

1. She is the grand-daughter of Earth's greatest heroes, Goku and Mr. Satan, and the daughter of Gohan and Videl.
2. She calms down Golden Great Ape Goku, allowing him to transform into a Super Saiyan 4.
3. She is the only prominent female quarter-Saiyan in the series.
4. She outlives all of the other Z-fighters.