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  • What character(s) do you hate and want to be eliminated as soon as possible or just irk you to even be on screen? This can be any character in the tournament of power. Including those who have been eliminated and even people that aren't new to the Tournament of Power. Like if you had a deep hatred of Krillin or Botamo for some reason you can put them. You can also put Gods and Angels if you want.

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    • Ribrianne and Caulifla

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    • Cabba - Some saiyan, he isn't even evil

      Kale - Why is she even consirded a saiyan?

      Quitela - So we have Tom so we need Jerry huh Toriyama?

      Mohito - Angel my butt

      Lou - Cocky little genderless god

      Vermoud - Ronald McDonald merged with Joker, oh god why?

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    • I disagree. I like that not all Saiyans are bloodthirsty idiots, and clowns are sexy.

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    • Ribrianne, Cabba, Kale

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    • It looks like I am not alone in my dislike for Cabba. It's stupid how a frail child could learn a transformation in seconds because of his sensitive feelings, while Goku and Vegeta had to push to their limit. Then somehow he can teach Kale and Califia the transformation even faster than Vegeta could teach him. "Just concentrate energy on your back" what was this trash. However, I started to respect Cabba character more when he was eliminated by Frieza. For the first time in his life, things weren't so lucky. At this point, I think Ribrianne is much more annoying since she just there spreading heart disease and chronic obesity when the cooler members of Team U2 like Hermila and Jimeze are already out.

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      Ribrianne, Cabba, Kale

      Nice list!

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    • BH Ouji wrote:
      Cabba - Some saiyan, he isn't even evil

      Kale - Why is she even consirded a saiyan?

      Quitela - So we have Tom so we need Jerry huh Toriyama?

      Mohito - Angel my butt

      Lou - Cocky little genderless god

      Vermoud - Ronald McDonald merged with Joker, oh god why?

      I agree except for the gods of destruction. Quietla is woke. Tom and Jerry aspect makes it cool. Also, he has the most personality and plot of all the other ones except Beerus and Champa. Vermoud (Belmond) is ok. Not great but not annoying bad.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:

      It looks like I am not alone in my dislike for Cabba. It's stupid how a frail child could learn a transformation in seconds because of his sensitive feelings, while Goku and Vegeta had to push to their limit. Then somehow he can teach Kale and Califia the transformation even faster than Vegeta could teach him. "Just concentrate energy on your back" what was this trash. However, I started to respect Cabba character more when he was eliminated by Frieza. For the first time in his life, things weren't so lucky. At this point, I think Ribrianne is much more annoying since she just there spreading heart disease and chronic obesity when the cooler members of Team U2 like Hermila and Jimeze are already out.

      Cabba irks me because of his generic personality and his lazy design. He's like a discount Tarble, tbh. He's presented as being a heroic do-gooder, but comes off as an annoying kid who wants to be greater.

      I don't think I need to explain Ribrianne, people have made it very clear why she's hated.

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    • Stryzzar wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote:

      It looks like I am not alone in my dislike for Cabba. It's stupid how a frail child could learn a transformation in seconds because of his sensitive feelings, while Goku and Vegeta had to push to their limit. Then somehow he can teach Kale and Califia the transformation even faster than Vegeta could teach him. "Just concentrate energy on your back" what was this trash. However, I started to respect Cabba character more when he was eliminated by Frieza. For the first time in his life, things weren't so lucky. At this point, I think Ribrianne is much more annoying since she just there spreading heart disease and chronic obesity when the cooler members of Team U2 like Hermila and Jimeze are already out.

      Cabba irks me because of his generic personality and his lazy design. He's like a discount Tarble, tbh. He's presented as being a heroic do-gooder, but comes off as an annoying kid who wants to be greater.

      I don't think I need to explain Ribrianne, people have made it very clear why she's hated.

      He is basically a bootleg Tarble which is probably why Vegeta likes him, but Tarble would be better. Kale also came off as literally just a gender swap of Broly. I didn't like Broly to begin with.

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    • My worst favorite characters are the Universe 6 Saiyans, and Ribranne. I don't really pay attention to the Angels or the Kais, so I don't really hate any of them. My worst favorite God of destruction is Sidra. I'm not really a fan of Belmond either, but I don't hate him.

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    • There is no such thing as a worst favourite. At that point they're just hated.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      I disagree. I like that not all Saiyans are bloodthirsty idiots

      Sooooooooooo hitler was a bloodthirsty idiot? ;)

      Bro evil saiyans were the best, that's why my fav characters are Vegeta and Broli

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    • There are no Germans here. And Hit is an assassin. His job, not his passion.

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    • EH28 wrote:
      My worst favorite characters are the Universe 6 Saiyans, and Ribranne. I don't really pay attention to the Angels or the Kais, so I don't really hate any of them. My worst favorite God of destruction is Sidra. I'm not really a fan of Belmond either, but I don't hate him.

      Yeah, Sidra was really annoying. I wonder if there is any poor soul that still likes Ribranne.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      There is no such thing as a worst favourite. At that point they're just hated.

      You can hate one character more than another 

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      There is no such thing as a worst favourite. At that point they're just hated.

      I think he meant "least favourite character"

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      There is no such thing as a worst favourite. At that point they're just hated.
      You can hate one character more than another 

      Yes, you can, but favourite implies that you like them. Wouldn't "most unfavourite" be more accurate?

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    • ribrianne. the worst sailor moon paroidy.

      i like caulifia but now...

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    • 1. Like because yes, I think that Krillin has always been a mere pipsqueak for the overall Dragon Ball metaseries created by Akira Toriyama; among all fans, who didn’t expect that he would be the first warrior from Universe 7 to be out in the tournament? It should’ve been better for him to be the first warrior overall to be out! Oh, and Botamo, what’s his actual purpose besides possibly being a bulked-up Winnie the Pooh?

      2. It has been confirmed that in one of the next episodes, a universe will get erased. I would really like Universe 2 to be that one; Ribrianne should learn that love is important in life, but not in a sickly, cringy manner to ultimately induce angina, myocardial infarction, stroke, heart failure, cardiomyopathy, arrhythmia, carditis, aneurysms, and thrombosis.

      3. The only things that maintain Kale is lifelong support from Caulifla and her incredible transformation. Other than that, she simply lacks any life purpose whatsoever.

      4. As stated above, already having a Tom doesn’t necessarily mean that we also need a Jerry. Quitela is undoubtedly the worst deity I’ve ever seen on an anime. He really thinks he’s the very greatest, while he actually seems and acts like those cringy kids on the web playing games like Minecraft, FNaF, etc. Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote:
      Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

      Our universe can't be erased since how can you explain this? http://i.imgur.com/veI0yv4.jpg

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    • BH Ouji wrote:

      DarkSteel02 wrote:
      Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

      Our universe can't be erased since how can you explain this? http://i.imgur.com/veI0yv4.jpg

      If that's GT, then the explanation is obvious.

      If not, then divine intervention.

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    • BH Ouji wrote:

      DarkSteel02 wrote:
      Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

      Our universe can't be erased since how can you explain this? http://i.imgur.com/veI0yv4.jpg

      Hahaha no dude I mean that Universe 4 will be the next one to eliminate someone from our universe

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    • We... don't live in U7.

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote:

      4. As stated above, already having a Tom doesn’t necessarily mean that we also need a Jerry. Quitela is undoubtedly the worst deity I’ve ever seen on an anime. He really thinks he’s the very greatest, while he actually seems and acts like those cringy kids on the web playing games like Minecraft, FNaF, etc. Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

      I'm just spitballing here, but Quitela's probably unnerved because Damom and Gamisars are extremely powerful warriors who can't even be sensed. Why else would someone high profile from U7 get eliminated by them? And your describing Sidra when you say why you dislike Quitela. Quitela does not think he's the greatest. There's nothing that shows that. Do you even watch Dragonball Super? When Ganos lost Quitela was visibly worried. Quitela just has many tricks up his sleeve. I don't know why you have to hate a character just for being smart.

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    • Also I'm almost 100% sure that Universe 2 will get erased next because, the episode right before the one, with a Universe getting erased, involves Universe 2 attacking Goku. If not it will be Universe 6.

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    • EH28 wrote: Also I'm almost 100% sure that Universe 2 will get erased next because, the episode right before the one, with a Universe getting erased, involves Universe 2 attacking Goku. If not it will be Universe 6.

      I would have to agree. Universe 2 has also lost a few warriors to the androids so it is time for them to finish the job. Quitela also is a good character he seems to have the most of plan compared to the other gods. Belmond is just putting all his faith in Jiren.

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    • EH28 wrote:

      DarkSteel02 wrote:

      4. As stated above, already having a Tom doesn’t necessarily mean that we also need a Jerry. Quitela is undoubtedly the worst deity I’ve ever seen on an anime. He really thinks he’s the very greatest, while he actually seems and acts like those cringy kids on the web playing games like Minecraft, FNaF, etc. Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

      I'm just spitballing here, but Quitela's probably unnerved because Damom and Gamisars are extremely powerful warriors who can't even be sensed. Why else would someone high profile from U7 get eliminated by them? And your describing Sidra when you say why you dislike Quitela. Quitela does not think he's the greatest. There's nothing that shows that. Do you even watch Dragonball Super? When Ganos lost Quitela was visibly worried. Quitela just has many tricks up his sleeve. I don't know why you have to hate a character just for being smart.

      I also think these bugs will be important to the story because Akira Toryama created him and in the Manga which he has more involvement than the anime the last two gods standing in the god match was Beerus and Quietla. The bugs are also probably very powerful because in the Goku vs. Jiren fight Quitela was sleeping. And he is not cocky all the time as he was a bit nervous when Master Rossi was knocking out all his fighters and when Zen-Oh was talking to him.

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote: 1. Like because yes, I think that Krillin has always been a mere pipsqueak for the overall Dragon Ball metaseries created by Akira Toriyama; among all fans, who didn’t expect that he would be the first warrior from Universe 7 to be out in the tournament? It should’ve been better for him to be the first warrior overall to be out! Oh, and Botamo, what’s his actual purpose besides possibly being a bulked-up Winnie the Pooh?

      2. It has been confirmed that in one of the next episodes, a universe will get erased. I would really like Universe 2 to be that one; Ribrianne should learn that love is important in life, but not in a sickly, cringy manner to ultimately induce angina, myocardial infarction, stroke, heart failure, cardiomyopathy, arrhythmia, carditis, aneurysms, and thrombosis.

      3. The only things that maintain Kale is lifelong support from Caulifla and her incredible transformation. Other than that, she simply lacks any life purpose whatsoever.

      4. As stated above, already having a Tom doesn’t necessarily mean that we also need a Jerry. Quitela is undoubtedly the worst deity I’ve ever seen on an anime. He really thinks he’s the very greatest, while he actually seems and acts like those cringy kids on the web playing games like Minecraft, FNaF, etc. Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

      Krillin actually did do a lot better than I expected. It seems like U9 people like Hyssop and the Trio De Dangers could have just one shoted him.

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    • EH28 wrote:

      DarkSteel02 wrote:

      4. As stated above, already having a Tom doesn’t necessarily mean that we also need a Jerry. Quitela is undoubtedly the worst deity I’ve ever seen on an anime. He really thinks he’s the very greatest, while he actually seems and acts like those cringy kids on the web playing games like Minecraft, FNaF, etc. Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡

      I'm just spitballing here, but Quitela's probably unnerved because Damom and Gamisars are extremely powerful warriors who can't even be sensed. Why else would someone high profile from U7 get eliminated by them? And your describing Sidra when you say why you dislike Quitela. Quitela does not think he's the greatest. There's nothing that shows that. Do you even watch Dragonball Super? When Ganos lost Quitela was visibly worried. Quitela just has many tricks up his sleeve. I don't know why you have to hate a character just for being smart.

      I know that Sidra (forgot to mention him before) was very smug, but this is also true for Quitela because of the manner he reacts to his universe and is somewhat exaggerated, at least this is my opinion. Anyways, this doesn’t mean that I like Sidra, an obnoxious DBS Gimli-lookalike I’ll not forget..

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote:

      It looks like I am not alone in my dislike for Cabba. It's stupid how a frail child could learn a transformation in seconds because of his sensitive feelings, while Goku and Vegeta had to push to their limit. Then somehow he can teach Kale and Califia the transformation even faster than Vegeta could teach him. "Just concentrate energy on your back" what was this trash. However, I started to respect Cabba character more when he was eliminated by Frieza. For the first time in his life, things weren't so lucky. At this point, I think Ribrianne is much more annoying since she just there spreading heart disease and chronic obesity when the cooler members of Team U2 like Hermila and Jimeze are already out.

      Cabba irks me because of his generic personality and his lazy design. He's like a discount Tarble, tbh. He's presented as being a heroic do-gooder, but comes off as an annoying kid who wants to be greater.

      I don't think I need to explain Ribrianne, people have made it very clear why she's hated.

      He is basically a bootleg Tarble which is probably why Vegeta likes him, but Tarble would be better. Kale also came off as literally just a gender swap of Broly. I didn't like Broly to begin with.

      In my opinion Cabba is over Tarble, as the latter almost literally acted very sissy on the OVA he appeared on..

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    • Sissy? Oh please.

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    • EH28 wrote: Also I'm almost 100% sure that Universe 2 will get erased next because, the episode right before the one, with a Universe getting erased, involves Universe 2 attacking Goku. If not it will be Universe 6.

      Well, I think that if it isn’t U2 (got this little ref?), then it’ll be U3 for challenging U11 and for their subpar role among the remaining universes; I think U6 will last long through Caulifla and Kale (currently fused); they have great importance in the saga, meanwhile those two Namekians definitely won’t last long..

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Sissy? Oh please.

      Yes; Tarble even lacks the initiative to fight, and so we also got another non-aggressive Saiyan.

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    • EH28 wrote:
      Also I'm almost 100% sure that Universe 2 will get erased next because, the episode right before the one, with a Universe getting erased, involves Universe 2 attacking Goku. If not it will be Universe 6.

      Also if you watch this notice how fitting is the order of the Supreme Kais leaving with the Universes erased so far. If we go by this then U2 would be next.

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    • worst characater? I have no idea so I make Characters disappointing list

      10. Krillin

      9. Frost 

      8. Murichim

      7. The Preecho

      6. Cabba

      5. Nigrisshi

      4. Doctor Rota

      3. Narirama

      2. Pride Troopers (no Jiren, Toppo or Dyspo)

      1. Jirasen (don't ask why)

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      EH28 wrote:
      Also I'm almost 100% sure that Universe 2 will get erased next because, the episode right before the one, with a Universe getting erased, involves Universe 2 attacking Goku. If not it will be Universe 6.

      Also if you watch this notice how fitting is the order of the Supreme Kais leaving with the Universes erased so far. If we go by this then U2 would be next.

      Yes U2 is the last obvious one of that supreme Kai meeting

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    • Kazama12345 wrote:
      worst characater? I have no idea so I make Characters disappointing list

      10. Krillin

      9. Frost 

      8. Murichim

      7. The Preecho

      6. Cabba

      5. Nigrisshi

      4. Doctor Rota

      3. Narirama

      2. Pride Troopers (no Jiren, Toppo or Dyspo)

      1. Jirasen (don't ask why)

      I actually feel a bit bad for Jirasen he got his whooped by freaking Ribranne. That is the worst way to go out.

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote:

      EH28 wrote: Also I'm almost 100% sure that Universe 2 will get erased next because, the episode right before the one, with a Universe getting erased, involves Universe 2 attacking Goku. If not it will be Universe 6.

      Well, I think that if it isn’t U2 (got this little ref?), then it’ll be U3 for challenging U11 and for their subpar role among the remaining universes; I think U6 will last long through Caulifla and Kale (currently fused); they have great importance in the saga, meanwhile those two Namekians definitely won’t last long.

      Yeah, it depends. I don't think it will be U3 yet, but we need to see if Kefla gets knocked out in episode 116. If she doesn't I think its safe to assume that U2 is next.

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote:

      It looks like I am not alone in my dislike for Cabba. It's stupid how a frail child could learn a transformation in seconds because of his sensitive feelings, while Goku and Vegeta had to push to their limit. Then somehow he can teach Kale and Califia the transformation even faster than Vegeta could teach him. "Just concentrate energy on your back" what was this trash. However, I started to respect Cabba character more when he was eliminated by Frieza. For the first time in his life, things weren't so lucky. At this point, I think Ribrianne is much more annoying since she just there spreading heart disease and chronic obesity when the cooler members of Team U2 like Hermila and Jimeze are already out.

      Cabba irks me because of his generic personality and his lazy design. He's like a discount Tarble, tbh. He's presented as being a heroic do-gooder, but comes off as an annoying kid who wants to be greater.

      I don't think I need to explain Ribrianne, people have made it very clear why she's hated.

      He is basically a bootleg Tarble which is probably why Vegeta likes him, but Tarble would be better. Kale also came off as literally just a gender swap of Broly. I didn't like Broly to begin with.

      In my opinion Cabba is over Tarble, as the latter almost literally acted very sissy on the OVA he appeared on..

      Cabba vs. Tarble is hard to decide who is worse because they are basically the same character, but I find it disturbing that Cabba didn't have a tail the defining Saiyan characteristic.

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    • A lazier designed, more boring Tarble essentially. At least Tarble doesn't dress like a girl.

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    • And what exactly is wrong with dressing in feminine attire?

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    • well what exactly are those purple flap things that Cabba wears for? To guard his balls?

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    • Same reason Beerus wears one. It's part of his outfit. Even if it's feminine attire, you still haven't answered NervousShipper's question: what's wrong with that?

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    • just doesn't fit a Saiyan, all part of why I don't like his design.

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    • U7 Saiyans are not the same as U6 Saiyans. Different universe, different gods, different evolutionary line (hence the lack of tails).

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    • well U6 fashion sucks, that goes for Caulifla too

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    • So, no reason then.

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote:

      BH Ouji wrote:

      DarkSteel02 wrote:
      Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡
      Our universe can't be erased since how can you explain this? http://i.imgur.com/veI0yv4.jpg
      Hahaha no dude I mean that Universe 4 will be the next one to eliminate someone from our universe

      OK then

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      just doesn't fit a Saiyan, all part of why I don't like his design.

      I don't like Cabba's (and honestly neither Caulifla's and Kale's) design, these tiny, spaghetti arms certainly don't feel good (for me at least) and I'm sad not even his SSJ form can't increase his muscles one bit.
      Cabba's design
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    • Fusion Zamasu Crying

      Fusion Zamasu believing his "justice" is for the greater good of the universe.

      Haha, so sad.
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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Stryzzar wrote:
      just doesn't fit a Saiyan, all part of why I don't like his design.

      I don't like Cabba's (and honestly neither Caulifla's and Kale's) design, these tiny, spaghetti arms certainly don't feel good (for me at least) and I'm sad not even his SSJ form can't increase his muscles one bit.
      Cabba's design

      I know he looks so frail. Its like eat man. U6 Saiyans have very lazy designs. Cabbas took the cool Saiyan armor and made it distorted it to look like a cheap halloween tunic.

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      well U6 fashion sucks, that goes for Caulifla too

      Yoga pants and pink bra. One of my friends dresses like this They took the college girl outfit. 

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    • Not very suitable for a fighting tournament. Her outfit is just fanservice.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      Stryzzar wrote:
      well U6 fashion sucks, that goes for Caulifla too
      Yoga pants and pink bra. One of my friends dresses like this They took the college girl outfit. 

      Yeah, i bet Future Videl being trained by Future Gohan himself would had a better outfit which could make present Gohan envy

      "Her outfit is just fanservice" - not to be picky, but mrs. Gine looks hot herself if we took out her armor, i geuss it runs in the family since even a hiportecal (sp) Kakarotto would have a t-shirt less armor according to episode 20 of DBZ

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    • Plus, Goku's shown off his body PLENTY of times. He's done way more fanservice than she has.

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    • Meh, I can't imagine how one fights in pants as baggy as that.

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      Meh, I can't imagine how one fights in pants as baggy as that.

      Dunno, ask... nearly every other character who wears pants.

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    • 95% of the cast has either nonexistent character or is equally badly writen so it's hard to say. Thought Ribrianne is obnoxious and has way much more screen than she needed. She was supposedly to be a silly Mahou Shoujo gag, why do she needs to have a central role in so many episodes if many of the U7 fighters can one shot her, but since the writers need to put as much filler as possible they just wait to fans accept anyways since "they're just suppressed", guess that finally backfired (that goes to her comrades too). and U6 saiyans are the pinnacle of Akira's and Toei's "amazing" writing wink wink. Also they all look like they suffer from dawn and have been diagnosticated with terminal cancer. 

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    • Dziga, it's like they put characters like this and intentionally keep them for so long like Ribrianne for whatever purpose, maybe to catch younger audiences? It's like DB goes from a brutal shōnen masterpiece to a Teletubbies show smh

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    • NervousShipper wrote:

      BH Ouji wrote:

      DarkSteel02 wrote:
      Very unfortunately, the next episodes' files confirm to us that Universe 4 will not be the next one to be eliminated, but possibly the next one to score an elimination to Universe 7 😡
      Our universe can't be erased since how can you explain this? http://i.imgur.com/veI0yv4.jpg
      If that's GT, then the explanation is obvious.

      That's not GT, it's end of Z

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    • Same diff, neither matters now.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      It looks like I am not alone in my dislike for Cabba. It's stupid how a frail child could learn a transformation in seconds because of his sensitive feelings, while Goku and Vegeta had to push to their limit. Then somehow he can teach Kale and Califia the transformation even faster than Vegeta could teach him. "Just concentrate energy on your back" what was this trash. However, I started to respect Cabba character more when he was eliminated by Frieza. For the first time in his life, things weren't so lucky. At this point, I think Ribrianne is much more annoying since she just there spreading heart disease and chronic obesity when the cooler members of Team U2 like Hermila and Jimeze are already out.

      Yeah man, I wonder why Cabba thinking his entire planet would be destroyed made him go Super Saiyan. It's almost like Super Saiyan is triggered by intense rage or something.

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    • I'm still not huge on Kale as a character but everyone else is basically fine. 

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    • BH Ouji wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      Stryzzar wrote:
      well U6 fashion sucks, that goes for Caulifla too
      Yoga pants and pink bra. One of my friends dresses like this They took the college girl outfit. 
      Yeah, i bet Future Videl being trained by Future Gohan himself would had a better outfit which could make present Gohan envy

      "Her outfit is just fanservice" - not to be picky, but mrs. Gine looks hot herself if we took out her armor, i geuss it runs in the family since even a hiportecal (sp) Kakarotto would have a t-shirt less armor according to episode 20 of DBZ

      Yeah, I think Caulifla's outfit was for fanservice. I bet it was for the fanart fanatics too.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Dziga, it's like they put characters like this and intentionally keep them for so long like Ribrianne for whatever purpose, maybe to catch younger audiences? It's like DB goes from a brutal shōnen masterpiece to a Teletubbies show smh

      I have no idea who Ribranne is aimed for. I don't a single person who likes her. I don't even think younger kids would like her because there are much cooler people in the tournament for them to like. Even if the Teletubbies were in the tournament I would prefer them over Ribranne.

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    • How did you feel about episode 116?

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    • Tiger2025 wrote: How did you feel about episode 116?

      RIP U6

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    • Wow, can't believe they took out U6 before U2 or U3. At least it's not the last we'll see of them.

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    • that power ranger guy from universe 3 and frost god i hated him i laughed when he got  erased 

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    • I like Frost though, he gave a badass moment to Frieza.

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    • Midnightmusic wrote: that power ranger guy from universe 3 and frost god i hated him i laughed when he got  erased 

      It’s funny to remember how smug was Frost; for being an idiot he got not only eliminated, but erased, before his universe

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    • Stryzzar wrote: Wow, can't believe they took out U6 before U2 or U3. At least it's not the last we'll see of them.

      It’s most likely that U6 will be the next one to be erased, as only Saonel and Pilina remain, besides the fact that they’re most likely inferior than many amongst their team, though let’s see what U7 does to U2 in the next episode, as they might get annihilated in one run just as they did with U9; really hoping for that to happen, don’t wanna get yet another heart attack from Ribrianne, believe me.

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    • Yeah, I hope Android 17 beats the hell out of Ribrianne.

      Or maybe... Frieza might do that. And he's gonna punch her around like a Ragdoll.

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote: Wow, can't believe they took out U6 before U2 or U3. At least it's not the last we'll see of them.

      It’s most likely that U6 will be the next one to be erased, as only Saonel and Pilina remain, besides the fact that they’re most likely inferior than many amongst their team, though let’s see what U7 does to U2 in the next episode, as they might get annihilated in one run just as they did with U9; really hoping for that to happen, don’t wanna get yet another heart attack from Ribrianne, believe me.

      Nah, U2 is gonna be next because yeah, there is only Saonel and Pirina but they wouldn't do the same thing they did with Obuni and Rubalt, that would be too predictable and a copy/paste right now.

      The next episode is about Universe 2's showdown with Goku and the Androids. "Showdown" was used before with U10 and you know how that ended up. And yeah, doesn't really matter if they are 5 fighters as the whole Team Universe 9 got ringed out in one episode.

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    • DarkSteel02 wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote: Wow, can't believe they took out U6 before U2 or U3. At least it's not the last we'll see of them.

      It’s most likely that U6 will be the next one to be erased, as only Saonel and Pilina remain, besides the fact that they’re most likely inferior than many amongst their team, though let’s see what U7 does to U2 in the next episode, as they might get annihilated in one run just as they did with U9; really hoping for that to happen, don’t wanna get yet another heart attack from Ribrianne, believe me.

      You most likely will need to endure at least 1 more heart attack from Ribranne. U6 might outlast U2 just because Saonel and Pilinia are not as confrontational as U2 is going to be in the next episode.  It would be a little lame if they were eliminated before U2 because it would be a copy of what happened to U10. Plus Ribranne really needs to go.

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Yeah, I hope Android 17 beats the hell out of Ribrianne.

      Or maybe... Frieza might do that. And he's gonna punch her around like a Ragdoll.

      Am I sensing a teamup

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      DarkSteel02 wrote:

      Stryzzar wrote: Wow, can't believe they took out U6 before U2 or U3. At least it's not the last we'll see of them.

      It’s most likely that U6 will be the next one to be erased, as only Saonel and Pilina remain, besides the fact that they’re most likely inferior than many amongst their team, though let’s see what U7 does to U2 in the next episode, as they might get annihilated in one run just as they did with U9; really hoping for that to happen, don’t wanna get yet another heart attack from Ribrianne, believe me.
      Nah, U2 is gonna be next because yeah, there is only Saonel and Pirina but they wouldn't do the same thing they did with Obuni and Rubalt, that would be too predictable and a copy/paste right now.

      The next episode is about Universe 2's showdown with Goku and the Androids. "Showdown" was used before with U10 and you know how that ended up. And yeah, doesn't really matter if they are 5 fighters as the whole Team Universe 9 got ringed out in one episode.

      Agreed it's going to be something different

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    • Literally all of them. Everyone but Gohan and Piccolo are people that irk me and should get eliminated. Even Goku. Seriously, this show has made Goku downright unlikable and reduced tragic Vegeta into a tool for comedic relief or a punching bag. The rest are barely relevant or are already eliminated (Master Roshi, Tien). I do agree that Universe 2 would get eliminated next becasue of next episodes then Universe 4 then Universe 6 becasue 6 will be the most heartfelt, downright emotional erasure in the whole arc GUARENTEED.

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    • Also Skar has a theory.

      The Supreme Kai meetings allude to the order of losing Universes...

      Roh left the meeting first and his universe was erased first...

      Gowasu left next after saying "That was unfortunate". His Universe was 2nd to be erased.

      After which, all other Supreme Kais followed. The Red Orb disappeared after Gowasu left which was the U2 Supreme Kai... so possibly U2 may get a Team Wipe either Next Episode or Later Episodes...

      Still U6 Namekians may be eliminated first before U2 gets wiped. Who knows?

      I for one find Skar's theory pretty well thought out.

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    • allow me....

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    • Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      allow me....

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      Sorry dude. This wiki is beyond even Zeno's Power. 

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      allow me....

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      Sorry dude. This wiki is beyond even Zeno's Power. 

      Zen Oh has no jurisdiction here. Akira Toriyama and the other creators could just erase Zen Oh with a pencil.

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Also Skar has a theory.

      The Supreme Kai meetings allude to the order of losing Universes...

      Roh left the meeting first and his universe was erased first...

      Gowasu left next after saying "That was unfortunate". His Universe was 2nd to be erased.

      After which, all other Supreme Kais followed. The Red Orb disappeared after Gowasu left which was the U2 Supreme Kai... so possibly U2 may get a Team Wipe either Next Episode or Later Episodes...

      Still U6 Namekians may be eliminated first before U2 gets wiped. Who knows?

      I for one find Skar's theory pretty well thought out.

      I like that theory, but it is hard to tell the order after U2.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Also Skar has a theory.

      The Supreme Kai meetings allude to the order of losing Universes...

      Roh left the meeting first and his universe was erased first...

      Gowasu left next after saying "That was unfortunate". His Universe was 2nd to be erased.

      After which, all other Supreme Kais followed. The Red Orb disappeared after Gowasu left which was the U2 Supreme Kai... so possibly U2 may get a Team Wipe either Next Episode or Later Episodes...

      Still U6 Namekians may be eliminated first before U2 gets wiped. Who knows?

      I for one find Skar's theory pretty well thought out.

      I like that theory, but it is hard to tell the order after U2.

      Yeah, coz the rest of the Orbs were green or yellow.

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      allow me....

      Disappear.png

      Sorry dude. This wiki is beyond even Zeno's Power. 

      It sucks so bad? :3

      (Sorry couldn't resist)

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Also Skar has a theory.

      The Supreme Kai meetings allude to the order of losing Universes...

      Roh left the meeting first and his universe was erased first...

      Gowasu left next after saying "That was unfortunate". His Universe was 2nd to be erased.

      After which, all other Supreme Kais followed. The Red Orb disappeared after Gowasu left which was the U2 Supreme Kai... so possibly U2 may get a Team Wipe either Next Episode or Later Episodes...

      Still U6 Namekians may be eliminated first before U2 gets wiped. Who knows?

      I for one find Skar's theory pretty well thought out.

      I like that theory, but it is hard to tell the order after U2.
      Yeah, coz the rest of the Orbs were green or yellow.

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      Yeah for some reason the morons colored Universe 6 as yellow when only Universe 4 and 9 are supposed to be yellow and at that point Roh already left the meeting.
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    • Ribranne is finally out! All my worst characters are out of the tournament. I am in for a clean tournament. How about you guys?

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Also Skar has a theory.

      The Supreme Kai meetings allude to the order of losing Universes...

      Roh left the meeting first and his universe was erased first...

      Gowasu left next after saying "That was unfortunate". His Universe was 2nd to be erased.

      After which, all other Supreme Kais followed. The Red Orb disappeared after Gowasu left which was the U2 Supreme Kai... so possibly U2 may get a Team Wipe either Next Episode or Later Episodes...

      Still U6 Namekians may be eliminated first before U2 gets wiped. Who knows?

      I for one find Skar's theory pretty well thought out.

      I like that theory, but it is hard to tell the order after U2.
      Yeah, coz the rest of the Orbs were green or yellow.

      DPKltBlXkAA5QUq
      Yeah for some reason the morons colored Universe 6 as yellow when only Universe 4 and 9 are supposed to be yellow and at that point Roh already left the meeting.

      Yes, they should have paid more attention. It made the scene less important.

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    • Yo can't believe my theory is still living. Episode 118 is called "vanishing universeS" and we pretty much know who are gonna be next which perfectly matches with the order from the meeting (if we assume one of the yellow orbs was intended to be Universe 6)

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    • My LEAST favourite characters from the tournament are (or were) Kale and Caulifla. I have absolutely no interest in either of them and it has annoyed me how much screen time they have got. 

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    • >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?

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    • Sexy. What's wrong with that?

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    • Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed

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    • BH Ouji wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed

      Almost as gross as women wearing men's clothes. *vomit*

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      BH Ouji wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed
      Almost as gross as women wearing men's clothes. *vomit*


      What are you talking about? Women in white ties are hot!

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    • BH Ouji wrote:

      NervousShipper wrote:
      BH Ouji wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed
      Almost as gross as women wearing men's clothes. *vomit*


      What are you talking about? Women in white ties are hot!

      You don't get sarcasm do you?

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Yo can't believe my theory is still living. Episode 118 is called "vanishing universeS" and we pretty much know who are gonna be next which perfectly matches with the order from the meeting (if we assume one of the yellow orbs was intended to be Universe 6)

      Congrats the theory still holds since you saw 2 be erased before 6. Looks like 3 has to watch their back now.

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    • BH Ouji wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed

      I'd takes it over Ribranne. Zirlioin's did go a bit far. 

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    • All my worse favorite characters do not even exist anymore. The Saiyan race went back to like 3 people.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:

      BH Ouji wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed

      I'd takes it over Ribranne. Zirlioin's did go a bit far. 

      How high are these writers?

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    • How toxic are these fans?

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    • NervousShipper wrote:

      How toxic are these fans?

      very

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    • Clearly. Them using the powers of their fallen comrades is no different than a spirit bomb or everything about vegeta after Goku became ssj

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    • It's not about that, it's that overused magical girl gag. It wasn't really funny to begin with and has just gotten ridiculous.

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    • Oh absolute, fuck ribrienne

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      It's not about that, it's that overused magical girl gag. It wasn't really funny to begin with and has just gotten ridiculous.

      It was some typical anime stuff

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    • Leaked episode 119 footage:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3TCsw3a0v4

      It actually is similar two mysterious warriors.

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    • So would a fusion of maji kayo and Jiren be the most powerful fusion in terms of ability and power?

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      So would a fusion of maji kayo and Jiren be the most powerful fusion in terms of ability and power?

      Probably. Or maybe Botamo + Jiren Fusion. Coz Botamo's ability to take no damage and unlimited stamina and Jiren's power. :P

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      So would a fusion of maji kayo and Jiren be the most powerful fusion in terms of ability and power?
      Probably. Or maybe Botamo + Jiren Fusion. Coz Botamo's ability to take no damage and unlimited stamina and Jiren's power. :P

      Who would win Maji Jiren or Jirtamo

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      So would a fusion of maji kayo and Jiren be the most powerful fusion in terms of ability and power?
      Probably. Or maybe Botamo + Jiren Fusion. Coz Botamo's ability to take no damage and unlimited stamina and Jiren's power. :P
      Who would win Maji Jiren or Jirtamo

      You know what? Forget those fusions...

      This one will be the Ultimate...

      Jiren + Hit...

      SUPER BADASS!!!

      He LITERALLY can't be hit.

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    • Jiit?

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    • Hiren

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    • Imagine a guy with Jiren's OP-ness plus Time Skip...

      He might even be Angel Level?

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    • Stryzzar wrote:

      BH Ouji wrote:

      NervousShipper wrote:
      BH Ouji wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed
      Almost as gross as women wearing men's clothes. *vomit*

      What are you talking about? Women in white ties are hot!
      You don't get sarcasm do you?

      Joke no, sarcasm yes

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    • Yes, you managed a sarcastic response to completely avoid the valid point I sarcastically brought up. Well done, you've shamed sarcasm. If it were an athropomorphic personification, it would have committed seppuku.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      BH Ouji wrote:
      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      >sees magical boys in girl's cloths.

      just .what. the. fuck. is. this.?


      Ew agreed
      I'd takes it over Ribranne. Zirlioin's did go a bit far. 

      I mean those three were Universe 2's hope and their last resort was dressing up as faggots? really? is that supposed to be funny?

      At least U9, U10 and U6 had serious warriors on the verge of defeat.

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    • Gay dudes don't wear women's  clothes. That's crossdressers you're thinking of. Also, if you don't want to be a hypocrite, you need to start telling women not to dress in men's clothes.

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    • Does that change the fact they look utterly stupid, pathetic and ridiculous on the very end?

      Anyway, I'm glad they're nothing right now.

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    • Are you saying that gay people are stupid, pathetic, and ridiculous? Do you consider the implication of your words, or do you just type whatever first comes to mind? Also, no, I don't think they were pathetic by the standards of their universe, since they achieved an ability that the others in their universe could not. (That said, I'm also glad Universe 2 is gone.)

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Are you saying that gay people are stupid, pathetic, and ridiculous? Do you consider the implication of your words, or do you just type whatever first comes to mind? Also, no, I don't think they were pathetic by the standards of their universe, since they achieved an ability that the others in their universe could not. (That said, I'm also glad Universe 2 is gone.)

      No he's not saying gay people look stupid, stop being a SJW, he's clearly refering to the U2 guys. And that fight was completely ridiculous and pointless. 

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    • Dziga wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Are you saying that gay people are stupid, pathetic, and ridiculous? Do you consider the implication of your words, or do you just type whatever first comes to mind? Also, no, I don't think they were pathetic by the standards of their universe, since they achieved an ability that the others in their universe could not. (That said, I'm also glad Universe 2 is gone.)
      No he's not saying gay people look stupid, stop being a SJW, he's clearly refering to the U2 guys. And that fight was completely ridiculous and pointless. 

      He said, and I quote, that they dress "like faggots". Has that word developed a new meaning since it was last used by homophobes?

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    • Oh yeh I agree, he's clearly the new hitler by using the word "faggot".

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    • Wow, now you just cannot mock the way a cartoon dresses cause then you got three or five people jumping the gun and critize one's opinion, smh.
      I don't have anything against gay people okay? I just used the term "faggot" because I'm still truly pissed that if that's supposed to be U2's last battle the best thing they can come up is having dudes dressed as teletubbies, those ridiculous outfits, shooting hearts and yelling "love this" "love that" every second, do you expect me or anyone with common sense not to laugh at that?
      Be honest, even you must have gone insane of hearing that every scene they appeared.
      But if you guys are gonna insist with the usual "homophobic" rant over any comment, do whatever you like.

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    • My biggest issue is that your vocabulary is so limited that you aren't even using a word with the right definition to express your irritation. That said, yeah, Universe 2 was more annoying than the great saiyaman. The point isn't that you can't call out U2 for sucking worse than the free album for the iPhone, the point is that that was the first word that came to your mind to describe something terrible. And that's terrible.

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    • Okay guys seriously, just chill. You can dislike someone's outfit without intending to be homophobic or discriminatory. Skar was not meaning to be derogatory to people with same sex interests.

      Having said that, @Skar you should be careful with using that word. In recent years it's permanently been associated with homophobia, just like certain racism terms, so it's best to avoid it altogether.

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    • Dziga wrote:
      Oh yeh I agree, he's clearly the new hitler by using the word "faggot".

      Who are you agreeing with, exactly? You're the only one who said that.

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    • Blaziken rjcf wrote:
      Dziga wrote:
      Oh yeh I agree, he's clearly the new hitler by using the word "faggot".
      Who are you agreeing with, exactly? You're the only one who said that.

      Are you so dense that you can't even get obvious sarcasm?

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    • Yeah dziggy everyone who does something bad is hitler or a saint. Jfc

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      Ribrianne, Cabba, Kale

      I don't really hate Cabba. I say he had a lot of potential. I actually find it a shame he only had about 1 episode of screentime in the tournament.

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    • TeaDeaPea wrote:
      Stryzzar wrote:
      Ribrianne, Cabba, Kale
      I don't really hate Cabba. I say he had a lot of potential. I actually find it a shame he only had about 1 episode of screentime in the tournament.

      Cabba got enough attention. He knocked out someone from the final 3 universes in one hit.  Piccolo got much less attention and he was on Universe 7

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Yeah dziggy everyone who does something bad is hitler or a saint. Jfc

      When the forum about fictional characters in a Sunday morning anime turns into an ethics and moral conversation

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Yeah dziggy everyone who does something bad is hitler or a saint. Jfc
      When the forum about fictional characters in a Sunday morning anime turns into an ethics and moral conversation

      Don't be a dick, and you'll always avoid an ethics and moral conversation aimed at you. For the conversations that are not aimed at you, ignore them. It's that simple.

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    • Do you guys think Ribranne and Kale will be resurrected at the end of the tournament, or do you think our worst favorite characters will be erased permanently.

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    • My last comment is based on the theory that the universes will be resurrected

      Here is some evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO5LrYMttoY  

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    • Kale will be back unfortunately, since U6 will be wished back by Vegeta.

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    • Finally, that Fuck Mouse got Erased. He whined like  a baby about it too...

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      Kale will be back unfortunately, since U6 will be wished back by Vegeta.

      I am not too sure about that. Did you look at later spoilers, does not say much, but I am highly questioning Vegeta lasting until the end of the tournament. Plus it is almost Dragon Ball Z and Super tradition for Vegeta to get beaten senseless or lose a major battle. 

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    • For all you Quitela haters Quitela gone too. This episode made me realize that he is kinda of an idiot he could have won the tournament if kept Damon and Gamisaras hidden and did not fully attack. The elimination of Katopelsa was brilliant. After that they went too far, by revealing Gamisaras power to everyone Quitela basically sealed his erasure. Although I do not hate Quitela he and Universe 4 could have had much more potential. What did you guys think of the hidden fighters? I was a bit disappointed, but not so much as to dislike them. It was funny that Damon was actually small I thought that theory was a joke. Also they had really cool theme songs too.

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    • Universe 4 was a parlor trick Universe thier only two purposes was to draw attention away from Universe 3 and give Master Roshi a time to shine. Seriously though I didn't even realize that Ea was not scared of Jiren because I was distracted by Quitela smiling. Also the preview and spoilers proves that this Robot fusion will survive a full on attack from Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta.

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    • I hate they eliminated Katopesla in such a stupid way, I know they needed to use some minor character as a victim so we could take them seriously but he was cool, he wasn't one of those boring looking u10 dudes nobody cares about, what a way to waste a character with potential. Bravo.

      As for Universe 4, they also wasted Damon, Shantza and Gamisaras. See there was a lot of people hyped for those guys since the tournament started. You got an invisible chameleon that is nearly undetectable, a thing that can summon any dead fighter and Ant-Man's fanboy, there you got material for like 2 or maybe 3 episodes but no, they rushed things up.

      I hope the Megazord turns out to be an actual threat.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      I hate they eliminated Katopesla in such a stupid way, I know they needed to use some minor character as a victim so we could take them seriously but he was cool, he wasn't one of those boring looking u10 dudes nobody cares about, what a way to waste a character with potential. Bravo.

      As for Universe 4, they also wasted Damon, Shantza and Gamisaras. See there was a lot of people hyped for those guys since the tournament started. You got an invisible chameleon that is nearly undetectable, a thing that can summon any dead fighter and Ant-Man's fanboy, there you got material for like 2 or maybe 3 episodes but no, they rushed things up.

      I hope the Megazord turns out to be an actual threat.

      Yeah, I agree. Katopelsa was a cool character, but it was brilliant that no one realized anything happened when he was eliminated it was not until Vegeta was sliding off that he it became suspicious. I would have preferred if 18 fell off from this instead of Katopelsa, but it had to be done to take them somewhat seriously. I hate how they rushed Universe 4 too I was expecting 2 to 3 episodes, but I think the idea of them was to distract you from Universe 3. I was hyped since the beginning of the tournament when I heard they would be nothing I was extremely disappointed, but they were at least something. See Katopelsa did really get that chance even if he was in the tournament longer. I hope Aniza Megazord is an actual threat too. Plus someone is due to take out these Androids

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      Skar800 wrote:
      I hate they eliminated Katopesla in such a stupid way, I know they needed to use some minor character as a victim so we could take them seriously but he was cool, he wasn't one of those boring looking u10 dudes nobody cares about, what a way to waste a character with potential. Bravo.

      As for Universe 4, they also wasted Damon, Shantza and Gamisaras. See there was a lot of people hyped for those guys since the tournament started. You got an invisible chameleon that is nearly undetectable, a thing that can summon any dead fighter and Ant-Man's fanboy, there you got material for like 2 or maybe 3 episodes but no, they rushed things up.

      I hope the Megazord turns out to be an actual threat.

      Yeah, I agree. Katopelsa was a cool character, but it was brilliant that no one realized anything happened when he was eliminated it was not until Vegeta was sliding off that he it became suspicious. I would have preferred if 18 fell off from this instead of Katopelsa, but it had to be done to take them somewhat seriously. I hate how they rushed Universe 4 too I was expecting 2 to 3 episodes, but I think the idea of them was to distract you from Universe 3. I was hyped since the beginning of the tournament when I heard they would be nothing I was extremely disappointed, but they were at least something. See Katopelsa did really get that chance even if he was in the tournament longer. I hope Aniza Megazord is an actual threat too. Plus someone is due to take out these Androids

      Also reading the spoilers for 119 and then watching the episode making me not totally hate Toei for wasting their characters. But Toei should stop doing this because a lot of good characters go to waste because of this

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      For all you Quitela haters Quitela gone too. This episode made me realize that he is kinda of an idiot he could have won the tournament if kept Damon and Gamisaras hidden and did not fully attack. The elimination of Katopelsa was brilliant. After that they went too far, by revealing Gamisaras power to everyone Quitela basically sealed his erasure. Although I do not hate Quitela he and Universe 4 could have had much more potential. What did you guys think of the hidden fighters? I was a bit disappointed, but not so much as to dislike them. It was funny that Damon was actually small I thought that theory was a joke. Also they had really cool theme songs too.


      For Team Universe 4, yeah the Toei Script writers killed off their 3 Trump Card fighters so easily. So stupid how Universe 7 is Dominating every single time. Shantsa was an Illusionist who could make Dark Illusions, yeah I found that cool. Also Shantsa was cute. It's kinda lame how Gamisaras and Damon were eliminated all in one episode. Maybe the producers did that so they can appease all dem Quitela haters... As for U3, they're fucked. There should be an Episode where Jiren eliminates a Lot of U7 Fighters just to show off his Power and also show how determined he is to attain the Super Dragon Balls for his wish.

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      For all you Quitela haters Quitela gone too. This episode made me realize that he is kinda of an idiot he could have won the tournament if kept Damon and Gamisaras hidden and did not fully attack. The elimination of Katopelsa was brilliant. After that they went too far, by revealing Gamisaras power to everyone Quitela basically sealed his erasure. Although I do not hate Quitela he and Universe 4 could have had much more potential. What did you guys think of the hidden fighters? I was a bit disappointed, but not so much as to dislike them. It was funny that Damon was actually small I thought that theory was a joke. Also they had really cool theme songs too.

      For Team Universe 4, yeah the Toei Script writers killed off their 3 Trump Card fighters so easily. So stupid how Universe 7 is Dominating every single time. Shantsa was an Illusionist who could make Dark Illusions, yeah I found that cool. Also Shantsa was cute. It's kinda lame how Gamisaras and Damon were eliminated all in one episode. Maybe the producers did that so they can appease all dem Quitela haters... As for U3, they're fucked. There should be an Episode where Jiren eliminates a Lot of U7 Fighters just to show off his Power and also show how determined he is to attain the Super Dragon Balls for his wish.

      Yeah eliminating all of them was way to quick I do not understand how this tournament will go til March. Quitela was not that bad of character to have his Trump cards be a joke.  If you see the spoiler I would not count Universe 3 out at least till 121. Also, Jiren will probably start his onslaught of Universe  7 with Vegeta in 122.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      I hate they eliminated Katopesla in such a stupid way, I know they needed to use some minor character as a victim so we could take them seriously but he was cool, he wasn't one of those boring looking u10 dudes nobody cares about, what a way to waste a character with potential. Bravo.

      As for Universe 4, they also wasted Damon, Shantza and Gamisaras. See there was a lot of people hyped for those guys since the tournament started. You got an invisible chameleon that is nearly undetectable, a thing that can summon any dead fighter and Ant-Man's fanboy, there you got material for like 2 or maybe 3 episodes but no, they rushed things up.

      I hope the Megazord turns out to be an actual threat.


      I know right? Universe 4 was completely Dominated. Damon should have at least been able to hide and maybe take out Android 17 and 18 in later episodes before he gets eliminated by maybe Goku. I hope all of Universe 3 doesn't get Eliminated all in one episode.

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:

      Skar800 wrote:
      I hate they eliminated Katopesla in such a stupid way, I know they needed to use some minor character as a victim so we could take them seriously but he was cool, he wasn't one of those boring looking u10 dudes nobody cares about, what a way to waste a character with potential. Bravo.

      As for Universe 4, they also wasted Damon, Shantza and Gamisaras. See there was a lot of people hyped for those guys since the tournament started. You got an invisible chameleon that is nearly undetectable, a thing that can summon any dead fighter and Ant-Man's fanboy, there you got material for like 2 or maybe 3 episodes but no, they rushed things up.

      I hope the Megazord turns out to be an actual threat.


      I know right? Universe 4 was completely Dominated. Damon should have at least been able to hide and maybe take out Android 17 and 18 in later episodes before he gets eliminated by maybe Goku. I hope all of Universe 3 doesn't get Eliminated all in one episode.

      Yeah, episode 120 was way to rushed. Also the Androids need to be eliminated, they've gotten a way, way, way bigger spotlight than the should have had. Also that would suck if all universe 3 warriors get eliminated in one episode.

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    • Skar800 wrote: I hate they eliminated Katopesla in such a stupid way, I know they needed to use some minor character as a victim so we could take them seriously but he was cool, he wasn't one of those boring looking u10 dudes nobody cares about, what a way to waste a character with potential. Bravo.

      As for Universe 4, they also wasted Damon, Shantza and Gamisaras. See there was a lot of people hyped for those guys since the tournament started. You got an invisible chameleon that is nearly undetectable, a thing that can summon any dead fighter and Ant-Man's fanboy, there you got material for like 2 or maybe 3 episodes but no, they rushed things up.

      I hope the Megazord turns out to be an actual threat.

      Yeah, instead of Gamisars eliminating Katopesla, he should've eliminated Dyspo or Android 18.

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    • EH28 wrote:

      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:

      Skar800 wrote:
      I hate they eliminated Katopesla in such a stupid way, I know they needed to use some minor character as a victim so we could take them seriously but he was cool, he wasn't one of those boring looking u10 dudes nobody cares about, what a way to waste a character with potential. Bravo.

      As for Universe 4, they also wasted Damon, Shantza and Gamisaras. See there was a lot of people hyped for those guys since the tournament started. You got an invisible chameleon that is nearly undetectable, a thing that can summon any dead fighter and Ant-Man's fanboy, there you got material for like 2 or maybe 3 episodes but no, they rushed things up.

      I hope the Megazord turns out to be an actual threat.


      I know right? Universe 4 was completely Dominated. Damon should have at least been able to hide and maybe take out Android 17 and 18 in later episodes before he gets eliminated by maybe Goku. I hope all of Universe 3 doesn't get Eliminated all in one episode.
      Yeah, episode 120 was way to rushed. Also the Androids need to be eliminated, they've gotten a way, way, way bigger spotlight than the should have had. Also that would suck if all universe 3 warriors get eliminated in one episode.

      Yeah, I hope Universe 3 is not rushed. It's dumb that the androids are even the tournament in the first place. This is a good opportunity for Universe 3.

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    • This won't happen, but how would you react if Universe 3 somehow won the tournament?

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    • How do you guys feel about the robot fusion coming up?

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    • We've seen that with Cell

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      We've seen that with Cell

      I guess, but that is not exactly the same

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    • This is more like combining rather than absorption.

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      This is more like combining rather than absorption.

      Yes like the Megazord or the Transformers

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    • It has to be quitela,I literally felt nothing when he got erased and is just wasted potential.I hope the manga do a better job to him or at least make me have a reaction when his team gets defeated.

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    • Commander Wort wrote: It has to be quitela,I literally felt nothing when he got erased and is just wasted potential.I hope the manga do a better job to him or at least make me have a reaction when his team gets defeated.

      Yeah I liked Quitela and I even felt nothing when he was erased. The entire 119 was just too rushed. I hope U3 can put more of a fight. Aniraza is a step in the right direction

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    • You know, it's sad they wasted some interesting turn of events with Damon/Gamisaras revelation as well as some final dialogue between Beerus and Quitela when he was about to get erased.
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    • Skar800 wrote:

      You know, it's sad they wasted some interesting turn of events with Damon/Gamisaras revelation as well as some final dialogue between Beerus and Quitela when he was about to get erased.
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      Yeah just like how it was the end of Beerus and Champas rivalry it was the end of the rivalry with Quitela. It was interesting that U7 seemed pretty scarred with U4's erasure when it didn't seem that scarring. It just felt ominous and out of place. Part of me wonders if they cut one episode with U4

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    • Aniraza looks kewl. I hope the fight would be epic. All of U7 vs. a Techno-Organic Beast.

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    • 17 and 18 are the more likeable androids.

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    • Damn. Aniraza was beaten in a similar fashion as Hatchiyak(Must have spelled it wrong)

      And Mosco actually an IMP!?

      That makes him the smallest GoD. And he's probably weaker than the other GoDs without his Robot Suit.

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    • So... Cell fusion... Anicellza?

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    • Anilaza might have perished, but I think his battle was the best one in the tournament

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    • How come everybody on team Universe 7 got a nice, heartfelt elimination, that honors the character, except for Piccolo?

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    • EH28 wrote:
      How come everybody on team Universe 7 got a nice, heartfelt elimination, that honors the character, except for Piccolo?

      It's sad indeed, this guy has a big history on Dragon Ball, one of the most iconic characters who went through, almost the same path as Vegeta (started evil then switched sides). Then in the Tournament of Power, the only eliminations he has done by himself were Rubalt from U10 (a weakling) then an invisible lizard and that little blue Pokemon.

      You can argue they were tricky foes but in terms of strenght, they were garbage, you can't call that a big contribution. And finally he gets eliminated just by being outsmarted by a much less dangerous enemy than the lizard. You can't compare that to losing a beam struggle.

      Not really surprised tho, that episode was garbage (stated by the japanese fans themselves) along with the sniper episode.

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    • He said he couldn't hear Damon, but he has excellent hearing, can hear things from great distances away. How could he possibly not hear Damon? Toei just had poor writing for that episode. Piccolo deserved much better. He's Goku's original rival.

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    • Worst part indeed, this guy can hear tons of conversations (even in Super) yet he can't hear a little bug near him. He could stretch his arms to save Gohan before but he couldn't just turn back and do the same to save himself? That's just poor writing.

      Not only he also got the brilliant idea to stay near the edge of the ring against that unknown enemy but Gohan didn't show up at all until his Picoro-san got tossed out the ring.

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    • Piccolo doesn't seem to have a good track record against bugs, this is the second time a bug has beaten him.

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    • And how come Damon didn't attack Gohan when he ran to the same place that Piccolo was eliminated just moments earlier? Damon could have easily gotten Gohan out too.

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    • That episode was just filled with poor writing.

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    • Yeah no wonder why it was so bad rated by even the fans, one of the two worst episodes of the Tournament.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Worst part indeed, this guy can hear tons of conversations (even in Super) yet he can't hear a little bug near him. He could stretch his arms to save Gohan before but he couldn't just turn back and do the same to save himself? That's just poor writing.

      Not only he also got the brilliant idea to stay near the edge of the ring against that unknown enemy but Gohan didn't show up at all until his Picoro-san got tossed out the ring.

      It would have been cool if Gohan saved him for once. That episode made it clear that Toei does not see Piccolo as anything significant. It strange because I feel that more people like Piccolo than the Androids.

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    • Not me, 17 is way cooler than Piccolo. That said, At least he lasted longer than the humans

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Not me, 17 is way cooler than Piccolo. That said, At least he lasted longer than the humans

      Opinions are subjective. A poll a while ago ranked Piccolo higher, but after ep, 119 I can understand why one may like 17 more than Piccolo. I still don't, but I am starting to question if Piccolo is actually smart.

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    • I still like Piccolo more. He didn't need an unexplained power boost to become relevant again.

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      I still like Piccolo more. He didn't need an unexplained power boost to become relevant again.

      He has unlimited stamina and it's been years. How is that unexplained?

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    • Yeah but even that shouldn't have pole vaulted him to SSB Goku. Granted it's not an issue exclusive to 17 as Ultimate Gohan was guilty of this too. I'm just saying Piccolo stayed important even without the use of combat.

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    • I like Piccolo a lot better than Android 17.

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    • Piccolo is a very unique, and interesting character. In more ways then one he's Goku's original rival. 17 is just not as interesting. 17 was literally made to basically be a battery for Cell. Piccolo is so much more than him.

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    • Also I don't like how 17's getting such a big spotlight in the tournament, while Piccolo was shafted. Not even 18 got a spotlight this big ever, when she deserves it more than 17. Gohan isn't even main in the tournament.

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    • EH28 wrote:
      Also I don't like how 17's getting such a big spotlight in the tournament, while Piccolo was shafted. Not even 18 got a spotlight this big ever, when she deserves it more than 17. Gohan isn't even main in the tournament.

      I don't know why Toei couldn't just make an original character on U7 team or Cell, but instead, we get 17. Imagine a canon Frieza and Cell team up that would be cool.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:

      EH28 wrote:
      Also I don't like how 17's getting such a big spotlight in the tournament, while Piccolo was shafted. Not even 18 got a spotlight this big ever, when she deserves it more than 17. Gohan isn't even main in the tournament.

      I don't know why Toei couldn't just make an original character on U7 team or Cell, but instead, we get 17. Imagine a canon Frieza and Cell team up that would be cool.

      Yeah it would be cool if Frieza, Cell, and Buu were all on Team a Universe 7. Also I feel like the only reason they added Krillin, Master Roshi, and 17 into the tournament is because Toei was to lazy to invent next characters for Universe 7.

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    • EH28 wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote:

      EH28 wrote:
      Also I don't like how 17's getting such a big spotlight in the tournament, while Piccolo was shafted. Not even 18 got a spotlight this big ever, when she deserves it more than 17. Gohan isn't even main in the tournament.
      I don't know why Toei couldn't just make an original character on U7 team or Cell, but instead, we get 17. Imagine a canon Frieza and Cell team up that would be cool.
      Yeah it would be cool if Frieza, Cell, and Buu were all on Team a Universe 7. Also I feel like the only reason they added Krillin, Master Roshi, and 17 into the tournament is because Toei was to lazy to invent next characters for Universe 7.

      Master Roshi and 17 was probably due to laziness or they thought that is this is the only way to make they relevant. Not that either of them really needed to be. Krillin was also put in as fodder and because of Goku's friendship with him.

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    • Guess Toei forgot about Pikkon, even if he's a filler character.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Stryzzar wrote:
      I still like Piccolo more. He didn't need an unexplained power boost to become relevant again.
      He has unlimited stamina and it's been years. How is that unexplained?

      Jumping to low Cell saga level to pushing post Black saga Blue Goku is way too much of a gap to be logically justifiable with just "trained for years".

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    • Frieza at least had the excuse he was born that strong. 17 was supposed to be augmented to peak level of the Red Ribbon androids. I mean what is doing push ups and sit ups going to do for his mechanical parts?

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      Frieza at least had the excuse he was born that strong. 17 was supposed to be augmented to peak level of the Red Ribbon androids. I mean what is doing push ups and sit ups going to do for his mechanical parts?

      I know the case of 17 he seems he should have maxed out at the cell saga especially since he is cyborg.

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    • Who is your worst favorite person that is still in the ring? 

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    • Tiger2025 wrote: Who is your worst favorite person that is still in the ring? 

      I like all of them. The only ones left are all interesting characters. But if i had to chose it would be Gohan because of what happened this episode. 17 was willing to sacrifice himself and gave Gohan the chance to knock off Toppo. Unfortunately, Gohan hesitated at the last second and lost their chance of taking out U11's second best fighter.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      Who is your worst favorite person that is still in the ring? 

      Goku and Vegeta.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote: Who is your worst favorite person that is still in the ring? 

      I like all of them. The only ones left are all interesting characters. But if i had to chose it would be Gohan because of what happened this episode. 17 was willing to sacrifice himself and gave Gohan the chance to knock off Toppo. Unfortunately, Gohan hesitated at the last second and lost their chance of taking out U11's second best fighter.

      It's not because Gohan hesitated that Toppo stayed in, it's because Toppo escaped the blast by using 17 somewhat as a shield. They didn't come close to eliminating Toppo.

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    • My worst favorite character still in would have to be Android 17.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      Who is your worst favorite person that is still in the ring? 

      Dyspo, I guess. Or Gohan.

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    • Dyspo's probably the worse member of Universe 11 still in. I did come to like him more after seeing worse characters like Ribrianne though.

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    • Everyone are good characters when you compare them to ribrianne

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: Everyone are good characters when you compare them to ribrianne

      I can agree with you on that. It's so true.

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    • Yeah, Ribrianne was basically the Ginyu Force. AWful

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: Everyone are good characters when you compare them to ribrianne

      Except for this Goku, who is now for some reason is dumber than he was on z. I remember a time where i actually chuckled a few times when Goku was acting this way, especially when goku was a kid and perhaps in z as well. Because A, Goku being dumb as a kid was reasonable because he was just a kid, who wasn't educated in a school and B, in Z it wasn't in your face and it wasn't there as much because he was developing somewhat during his time on Earth. In Super, it is basically the staple that makes Goku Goku. And they keep using the joke again and again and again and again just as much as every Adam Sandler movie keeps reusing the Kevin James is fat joke. I mean, did he learn NOTHING from his friends, or pick up some common sense on his own? And not only is he so dumb he can't tell Beerus was wearing a Monaka suit during his fight, he has also for some reason developed Alziemer's because he forgets EVERYTHING. He forgot Senzu Beans, twice, the seal that could end the threat of the Zero Mortals Plan, and an almighty button. Is this the Goku I knew? Not only that, but he also acts like a selfish d***, ditching his family and friends every chance he gets. Seriously, Toei has to stop because it's just not funny anymore it's baffling. If I wanted to watch a dumb Goku u can watch Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z Abridged, at least those Gokus are funny. I'm sorry, but I would rather have a character made out if cringe than an overused rotten joke played every single time.

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    • Worth noting, Goku being smarter in Z actually diverged from Toriyama's intent. Super making him dumber actually brings him closer to his intended depiction. He's the progenitor of Shonen protagonists who are all characterized as being not too bright, living life to the fullest, and eternally cheerful. Also forgetting the senzu beans isn't that OOC for Z Goku, Goku did forget about the date Trunks told him 5 minutes ago and wasn't sure if Videl was a boy. The only difference is Goku doesn't go out of focus like he did in Z, so there's more chances to see him be an idiot.

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    • And that's why Z is better, because it didn't follow that idiotic aspect of Toryima's intent.

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    • The dub also made him far more smarter. He talked like a country bumpkin in the source material, while in the dub he has a tendency to use long sophisticated words.

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    • Well that's not fair. The dub is awful. The voice actors were horrible, the dialogue was atrocious, the ugh ahh ugh hhh uhh of fear was ridiculous.

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    • All of them - but more than anything, the Kings of All. Having heartless little monsters like that at the top of the food chain ruins the whole setting for me.

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    • DraculaCronqvist wrote:
      All of them - but more than anything, the Kings of All. Having heartless little monsters like that at the top of the food chain ruins the whole setting for me.

      The Zenos aren't at the top of the food chain. The one at the top will always be Toriyama no matter what.

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:
      DraculaCronqvist wrote:
      All of them - but more than anything, the Kings of All. Having heartless little monsters like that at the top of the food chain ruins the whole setting for me.

      The Zenos aren't at the top of the food chain. The one at the top will always be Toriyama no matter what.

      Well, he's not a true character in the canon, strictly speaking. Sure, the "character" Toriyama does appear in Dragonball media, but he hasn't been mentioned for years, let alone acted in front of any character. Sure, the creator ultimately makes and breaks his own world as he pleases... But if that creator is the very fact about what's wrong with their world now, all is doomed.

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    • DraculaCronqvist wrote:
      SuperBen 1000000 wrote:
      DraculaCronqvist wrote:
      All of them - but more than anything, the Kings of All. Having heartless little monsters like that at the top of the food chain ruins the whole setting for me.

      The Zenos aren't at the top of the food chain. The one at the top will always be Toriyama no matter what.

      Well, he's not a true character in the canon, strictly speaking. Sure, the "character" Toriyama does appear in Dragonball media, but he hasn't been mentioned for years, let alone acted in front of any character. Sure, the creator ultimately makes and breaks his own world as he pleases... But if that creator is the very fact about what's wrong with their world now, all is doomed.

      Lets not forget the true puppet master cold hard cash

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    • Dr. Rota. Dumbass can't even show what power he had.

      I actually don't mind Brianne, but that's a character you eliminate early.

      And... I don't care for U6 Saiyans. Cabba came off as a wimp when he kept defending Frost after he admitted what a scumbag he was. And Kale & Caulifla are Mary Sues.

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    • JDogindy wrote:
      Dr. Rota. Dumbass can't even show what power he had.


      He's legit one of the WORST characters introduced, I don't care if he is a gag character. What triggered me the most is that this character had not a single interaction with anybody from Universe 6, it's almost as if toei was like "oh yeah let's put this goofy guy on Universe 6 to fill space".

      Rather than putting an interesting character, even having the advantage that U6 is a mirror of U7 meaning they could pick races from there or even movie-based characters no, they put this boring useless character for one filler episode who gives the impression he isn't from U6 at all, just a gag element they threw there to makes us laugh I guess.

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    • Skar800 wrote:

      JDogindy wrote:
      Dr. Rota. Dumbass can't even show what power he had.


      He's legit one of the WORST characters introduced, I don't care if he is a gag character. What triggered me the most is that this character had not a single interaction with anybody from Universe 6, it's almost as if toei was like "oh yeah let's put this goofy guy on Universe 6 to fill space".

      Rather than putting an interesting character, even having the advantage that U6 is a mirror of U7 meaning they could pick races from there or even movie-based characters no, they put this boring useless character for one filler episode who gives the impression he isn't from U6 at all, just a gag element they threw there to makes us laugh I guess.

      I actually thought Dr. Rota was funny, but it's really stupid how he didn't show his ability.

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    • That was the joke.

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    • NegativeSymptom wrote: That was the joke.

      I know but after joking about it he should have actually shown his ability.

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    • This is about the fate of trillions of people. It's not the time for jokes.

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    • EH28 wrote:

      Skar800 wrote:

      JDogindy wrote:
      Dr. Rota. Dumbass can't even show what power he had.


      He's legit one of the WORST characters introduced, I don't care if he is a gag character. What triggered me the most is that this character had not a single interaction with anybody from Universe 6, it's almost as if toei was like "oh yeah let's put this goofy guy on Universe 6 to fill space".

      Rather than putting an interesting character, even having the advantage that U6 is a mirror of U7 meaning they could pick races from there or even movie-based characters no, they put this boring useless character for one filler episode who gives the impression he isn't from U6 at all, just a gag element they threw there to makes us laugh I guess.

      I actually thought Dr. Rota was funny, but it's really stupid how he didn't show his ability.

      Just you wait Dr.Rota is not out of the ring yet. He is coming back. He is the true antagonist of this arc. Just you wait he will erase Zeno on the spot. 

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    • @Tiger2025 maybe I judged him wrong, maybe he is gonna come back. You can't underestimate anyone these days, not even Jar Jar Binks.

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    • Skar800 wrote: @Tiger2025 maybe I judged him wrong, maybe he is gonna come back. You can't underestimate anyone these days, not even Jar Jar Binks.

      So true.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      @Tiger2025 maybe I judged him wrong, maybe he is gonna come back. You can't underestimate anyone these days, not even Jar Jar Binks.

      Rule of Thumb the gag characters are always the most powerful. Jar Jar's sheer power is so incredible its almost Dragon Ball Z level imagine Dr. Rota's true power.

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    • Do you think Jiren's backstory made him more or less likable? In my opinion, it just made him seem like Batman

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    • Jesus f'ing Christ, no. It makes him like Sasuke. Everyone and their mom has a dead parent backstory. That's not a batman thing.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Jesus f'ing Christ, no. It makes him like Sasuke. Everyone and their mom has a dead parent backstory. That's not a batman thing.

      You're ignoring everything else about Jiren, Sasuke, and Batman that makes Jiren look more like Batman than Sasuke.

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    • ^This

      Sasuke isn't a superhero who was inspired to do what he does from death of his loved ones. That's all Batman.

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    • Ahh, so Jiren was scared by a tacky dresser flying through the window and that inspired him to become a pride trooper.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Ahh, so Jiren was scared by a tacky dresser flying through the window and that inspired him to become a pride trooper.

      Batman's costume came from his fear of bats, but the trigger for the superhero persona was the death of his parents.

      Do you even know Batman, or are you just pulling a Katchin?

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    • Which Batman, Bruce Wayne? Dick Grayson? Azrael? Terry McGinnis? Yes, I know Batman. I just don't like him being compared to Jiren. 

      Also, Batman's costume is Bruce Wayne.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Which Batman, Bruce Wayne? Dick Grayson? Azrael? Terry McGinnis? Yes, I know Batman. I just don't like him being compared to Jiren. 

      Also, Batman's costume is Bruce Wayne.

      You know who and what I meant. Being pedantic when you understood me perfectly is not going to earn you any brownie points.

      Anyway, even if you don't like the comparison, there's a clear parallel between the two.

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    • I see three similarities, he's standoffish with his teammates, has dead parents, and glares.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: I see three similarities, he's standoffish with his teammates, has dead parents, and glares.

      Then either you don't know Batman, or you don't know Jiren, or you're lying, or you're blind.

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    • Well then tell me, what similarities do you see?

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    • Truth is, the 'dead parents' and 'lost trust' backstories are INCREDIBLY common, sometimes for villains, sometimes for heroes. Neither Batman nor Naruto (in Sasuke's case) did anything particularly new or special. I only compare Jiren to Batman as a joke, personally, and because of his 'no killing policy' in the manga. 

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    • If Jiren is really like Sasuke then he’s also like Naruto, Gaara, and pretty much everyone else in the entire series because for some reason Naruto seems to think that everyone is “just like me”.

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    • NervousShipper wrote: Well then tell me, what similarities do you see?

      Guy decides to become a defender of justice after his parents are murdered. He has a strict policy not to kill and trains every day to become stronger and stop evildoers. Furthermore, although he has a hard time trusting others, he gathers a group of like-minded individuals to his cause (defending justice), since he recognizes he can't be everywhere at once, while making sure he can still kick all their asses if need be.

      That's the Batman archetype. It's also Jiren's character. Anyone hears this description (which is an accurate portrayal of Jiren's known backstory without mentioning his name), they think "Batman".

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Jesus f'ing Christ, no. It makes him like Sasuke. Everyone and their mom has a dead parent backstory. That's not a batman thing.

      It was the joke. Even though they do they have similarities. I honestly think the evil-doer is Jiren himself because he could not control such a vast amount of power at a young age. He strove to get stronger so he could control his power 

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Jesus f'ing Christ, no. It makes him like Sasuke. Everyone and their mom has a dead parent backstory. That's not a batman thing.

      Huh.

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    • Orion Invictus wrote:

      NervousShipper wrote: Well then tell me, what similarities do you see?

      Guy decides to become a defender of justice after his parents are murdered. He has a strict policy not to kill and trains every day to become stronger and stop evildoers. Furthermore, although he has a hard time trusting others, he gathers a group of like-minded individuals to his cause (defending justice), since he recognizes he can't be everywhere at once, while making sure he can still kick all their asses if need be.

      That's the Batman archetype. It's also Jiren's character. Anyone hears this description (which is an accurate portrayal of Jiren's known backstory without mentioning his name), they think "Batman".

      Jiren is a lot like batman, but there's one major difference between the two. Jiren doesn't dress up as a winged mammal. One of the biggest parts of Batman's character is his bat outfit.

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    • ANd that he considers batman to be his true identity and Bruce Wayne is his disguise (the opposite of how Clark Kent views himself)

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    • But Jiren considers Jiren to be his true identity too.

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    • Talk about a plot-twist

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    • YEs, except that he's a pride trooper, which would be the normal person equivalent to batman, not Bruce

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    • He seems to fit the whole "that boy died that day along with his family" archetype that's pretty common with antiheroes. "and from that day forth there was only Jiren"

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    • At least with Batman you know why he is called like that, there's an explanation, but where did the whole "Jiren The Grey" nickname came from? because of his skin?

      if so, very creative, as if Obama turns into a superhero and wants to be called Obama The Black.

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    • Obama the Half Black

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    • So... Obama the grey

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    • He's based off allegedly real life Grey Aliens that are sometimes nicknamed Greys.

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    • "Worst favorite"...?

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      At least with Batman you know why he is called like that, there's an explanation, but where did the whole "Jiren The Grey" nickname came from? because of his skin?

      if so, very creative, as if Obama turns into a superhero and wants to be called Obama The Black.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_alien 

      The odd thing is that is often described too much frailer than Humans. I guess Jiren is just jacked

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    • Since the Tournament is nearing its finale, where do your opinions stand? What are your two least favorite Universes (can be U7 if you really hate them for some reason) and who are your two least favorite characters in the Tournament of Power?

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    • Universes: 2, 4

      Characters: Ribrianne, Ribrianne

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    • U2

      U9

      Ribrianne

      Kale

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    • Universes: U2, U2

      Characters: Dr. Rota, Ribrianne

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      U2

      U9

      Ribrianne

      Kale

      U9 could have been cooler if they weren't a throwaway, but either way Sidra is way to dumb

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      Stryzzar wrote:
      U2

      U9

      Ribrianne

      Kale

      U9 could have been cooler if they weren't a throwaway, but either way Sidra is way too dumb

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Universes: 2, 4

      Characters: Ribrianne, Ribrianne

      That honestly the only character I despise the tournment. Should have just added a real teletubbie if thats the effect they wanted

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Universes: 2, 4

      Characters: Ribrianne, Ribrianne

      They should have just added a real teletubbie if that's the effect they wanted with Ribrianne

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:

      U9 could have been cooler if they weren't a throwaway, but either way Sidra is way to dumb

      I liked Trio de Danger but they were terribly executed in the anime with only Basil doing more than the entire team.

      Bergamo not only hasn't done anything but he forgot he can grow, obviously that was allowed with Ribrianne and Anilaza so no, not excuse, Bergamo is dumb af.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:

      U9 could have been cooler if they weren't a throwaway, but either way Sidra is way to dumb

      I liked Trio de Danger but they were terribly executed in the anime with only Basil doing more than the entire team.

      Bergamo not only hasn't done anything but he forgot he can grow, obviously that was allowed with Ribrianne and Anilaza so no, not excuse, Bergamo is dumb af.

      Yeah, I thought that was dumb too. When Bergamo is huge he is at or possibly above Kefla level since Goku had to go Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken in the Zen exhibition match where he would be at full stamina. Couldn't he just absorb Vegeta and Goku's combined attack and turn huge? They threw away this cool new dog race. I hope they are not trash in the Manga

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    • Yeah I would like to think Toyotaro took notes of that bs.

      Maybe Bergamo and his brothers are gonna use his special techniques from the Zen Exhibition. Great Priest didn't say anything about not using such things in the chapters so far. He only mentioned the flight and killing rule IIRC.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Yeah I would like to think Toyotaro took notes of that bs.

      Maybe Bergamo and his brothers are gonna use his special techniques from the Zen Exhibition. Great Priest didn't say anything about not using such things in the chapters so far. He only mentioned the flight and killing rule IIRC.

      I think they will too because they didn't appear there in the manga so they might use them in the tournament

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    • Bananas Split wrote:
      Universes: U2, U2

      Characters: Dr. Rota, Ribrianne

      Dude Dr. Rota is coming back give him a chance to show off his true power

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    • Universes in a Nutshell:

      Universe 2: Relatives that hug you a little too hard or more accurately a Love Apocalypse

      Universe 3: Techno, Transformers, Maji Kayo, Power Rangers, Plot Twist (kinda of), Anilaza

      Universe 4: Parlor Trick Universe

      Universe 6: Bootleg Universe 7 and Hit 

      Universe 7: Overdogs who the writers want you to believe are Underdogs

      Universe 9: Throwaway Universe. Actual Underdogs

      Universe 10: The Godtubers and Obuni

      Universe 11: Tooooppppoooo! Jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

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    • Universe 10: Gowasu the Godtuber and friends

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      Universe 10: Gowasu the Godtuber and friends

      How did I forget about Gowasu and Rumsshi? Going to edit that in

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    • Stryzzar wrote:
      But Jiren considers Jiren to be his true identity too.

      I think you're right on that.

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    • Skar800 wrote:
      Stryzzar wrote:
      But Jiren considers Jiren to be his true identity too.
      I think you're right on that.

      Dude that is up for debate I think he considers himself Jiren the Grey

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    • What's your opinion on the new shade of ultra instinct

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      What's your opinion on the new shade of ultra instinct

      One word : Predictable -_-

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote:
      What's your opinion on the new shade of ultra instinct

      One word : Predictable -_-

      How so?

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      What's your opinion on the new shade of ultra instinct
      One word : Predictable -_-

      That Goku got another new form to match Jiren?

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      What's your opinion on the new shade of ultra instinct
      One word : Predictable -_-
      That Goku got another new form to match Jiren?

      That it's silver. This is obviously toyble's influence.

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    • NervousShipper wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      What's your opinion on the new shade of ultra instinct
      One word : Predictable -_-
      That Goku got another new form to match Jiren?
      That it's silver. This is obviously toyble's influence.
      1. 1: Predictable that Goku gets an asspull New Form for him to win by Mastering a form that even Hakaishin have such a hard time attaining said form...
      2. 2: Silver eyes in his Incomplete Form kinda made it predictable that the completed Ultra Instinct Form would have Silver Hair.

      ​​​​​​

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    • SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      NervousShipper wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      SomeRandomGiantUser wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      What's your opinion on the new shade of ultra instinct
      One word : Predictable -_-
      That Goku got another new form to match Jiren?
      That it's silver. This is obviously toyble's influence.
      1. 1: Predictable that Goku gets an asspull New Form for him to win by Mastering a form that even Hakaishin have such a hard time attaining said form...
      2. 2: Silver eyes in his Incomplete Form kinda made it predictable that the completed Ultra Instinct Form would have Silver Hair.

      ​​​​​​

      I have a feeling that this form might not be enough we will have to see. I called Frieza winning since the beginning now I think it will either be Frieza or Jiren

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:
      Tiger2025 wrote:
      Who is your worst favorite person that is still in the ring? 
      Goku and Vegeta.

      This is just getting stupid you letting one dimensional thing this much I don't get what is so one dimensional this is just being petty.

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    • You guys realize Ribranne is out there somewhere being cringy

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    • What do you guys think was Super's biggest unanswered questions

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:

      You guys realize Ribranne is out there somewhere being cringy

      Yeah Ribrianne getting rezzed is the only downside to wishing back the universes. I cheered when she got erased. Still at least we probably won't be seeing much of her and she'll stay in her own universe.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote:
      What do you guys think was Super's biggest unanswered questions

      How did Great Priest got his children. Did he marry an unknown angel or he...

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    • I'm sure she had character growth though, that was the point of their last appearance pre-revival

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    • Stryzzar wrote:

      Tiger2025 wrote:

      You guys realize Ribranne is out there somewhere being cringy

      Yeah Ribrianne getting rezzed is the only downside to wishing back the universes. I cheered when she got erased. Still at least we probably won't be seeing much of her and she'll stay in her own universe.

      I hope Toriyama forgets her. Unless Toriyama decides to make a baby version of dragon ball. I hope they don't forget about Toppo and Jiren after this arc

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    • It would be nice...if the new movie includes jiren.

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    • The new movie is about saiyans

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    • Jiren could help Goku defeat the villain.

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    • EH28 wrote:
      Jiren could help Goku defeat the villain.

      That would be cool. I don't think it will be this movie, but imagine an infinite war like team up of the Z fighters, Pride Troopers, and groups from the other Universes

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    • Now that the Tournament of Power has concluded who are your top 5 least favorite characters (includes all character in the Tournament)

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    • Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      It would be nice...if the new movie includes jiren.

      NO. I pray to god he never comes back. He is THE WORST character created in DB ever. Nothing about him works. His design looks horrid, like Frieza and Jaco had a child, Jiren is a retred of a retred which makes him really unoriginal. His execution like the rest of the new Universal Survival Saga characters is mediocre at best due to the fact that except for the ending, he barely does anything at all but try to look cool. Everything about his character is so one-dimensional, bland, and cliche, and clearly BSed by the writers just to sell toys. Seriously, what has DB become? This dude represents how much of a hollow shell DB is now. There are no themes, comedy, in-deph character arcs and development, clever wit, meaningful scenes, where is any of that in this show?! DB has devolved just like every action cartoon these days. How far down DB has become is comparable to Teen Titans to Teen Titans GO!, Ben 10 to the Ben 10 reboot, it just encourages kids to have a negative way of thinking that and I quote Kuro the Artist, "think screaming and farting are funny and everyday violence is now normal". Don't get me wrong, I'm glad DB has come back. DBS has brought me here in the first place to talk to you guys, sharing opinions about what I think about it with people when I feel a bit down (and trust me, I feel "a bit down" all the time). And I will acknowedge at least that. But if the new movie you know "came back to its roots" and had action AND adventure, that would be nice and a step to a good DB series as good as Z and the original series, heck maybe the manga as well.

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      He is THE WORST character created in DB ever.

      There are plenty of characters far worse than him

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    • Tiger2025 wrote: Now that the Tournament of Power has concluded who are your top 5 least favorite characters (includes all character in the Tournament)

      Spam?

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    • SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      It would be nice...if the new movie includes jiren.

      NO. I pray to god he never comes back. He is THE WORST character created in DB ever. Nothing about him works. His design looks horrid, like Frieza and Jaco had a child, Jiren is a retred of a retred which makes him really unoriginal. His execution like the rest of the new Universal Survival Saga characters is mediocre at best due to the fact that except for the ending, he barely does anything at all but try to look cool. Everything about his character is so one-dimensional, bland, and cliche, and clearly BSed by the writers just to sell toys. Seriously, what has DB become? This dude represents how much of a hollow shell DB is now. There are no themes, comedy, in-deph character arcs and development, clever wit, meaningful scenes, where is any of that in this show?! DB has devolved just like every action cartoon these days. How far down DB has become is comparable to Teen Titans to Teen Titans GO!, Ben 10 to the Ben 10 reboot, it just encourages kids to have a negative way of thinking that and I quote Kuro the Artist, "think screaming and farting are funny and everyday violence is now normal". Don't get me wrong, I'm glad DB has come back. DBS has brought me here in the first place to talk to you guys, sharing opinions about what I think about it with people when I feel a bit down (and trust me, I feel "a bit down" all the time). And I will acknowedge at least that. But if the new movie you know "came back to its roots" and had action AND adventure, that would be nice and a step to a good DB series as good as Z and the original series, heck maybe the manga as well.

      Comparing super to Ben 10 reboot and teen titans go man that is a stupid opinion they are nothing a like you blind or something?

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    • Gamma Venom 567 wrote:

      SuperBen 1000000 wrote:

      Mystery idiot 50 wrote:
      It would be nice...if the new movie includes jiren.

      NO. I pray to god he never comes back. He is THE WORST character created in DB ever. Nothing about him works. His design looks horrid, like Frieza and Jaco had a child, Jiren is a retred of a retred which makes him really unoriginal. His execution like the rest of the new Universal Survival Saga characters is mediocre at best due to the fact that except for the ending, he barely does anything at all but try to look cool. Everything about his character is so one-dimensional, bland, and cliche, and clearly BSed by the writers just to sell toys. Seriously, what has DB become? This dude represents how much of a hollow shell DB is now. There are no themes, comedy, in-deph character arcs and development, clever wit, meaningful scenes, where is any of that in this show?! DB has devolved just like every action cartoon these days. How far down DB has become is comparable to Teen Titans to Teen Titans GO!, Ben 10 to the Ben 10 reboot, it just encourages kids to have a negative way of thinking that and I quote Kuro the Artist, "think screaming and farting are funny and everyday violence is now normal". Don't get me wrong, I'm glad DB has come back. DBS has brought me here in the first place to talk to you guys, sharing opinions about what I think about it with people when I feel a bit down (and trust me, I feel "a bit down" all the time). And I will acknowedge at least that. But if the new movie you know "came back to its roots" and had action AND adventure, that would be nice and a step to a good DB series as good as Z and the original series, heck maybe the manga as well.

      Comparing super to Ben 10 reboot and teen titans go man that is a stupid opinion they are nothing a like you blind or something?

      Agreed. Dragon ball Super is great. Stop hating on it Ben.

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    • Tiger2025 wrote: Now that the Tournament of Power has concluded who are your top 5 least favorite characters (includes all character in the Tournament)

      1. Ribranne

      2. Cabba

      3. Jirasen

      4. Rozie

      5. Murisarm

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